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I never liked the french Orbat in twilight and never understood how they came up with it. As I have made one, I leave it to you and hope it might interest some.
It can be open to critics no doubt but I think it's not too bad ![]() FRANCE In my world the French left Tahiti and concentrated their forces on New Caledonia (protecting the nickel mines there). I also added several support units and divided the 4th DAM among its various regiments. At least one regiment was formed from training units: 507th RCh 1st RPIMa (similar to SEAL), you’ll find some in the DIMa too. Some are missing: 3rd RA, 4th RA, 15th RA, 32nd RA, 74th RA (Pluton Nuclear Missile) 401st RA, 402nd RA, 403rd RA (I-Hawk missile) The Division Daguet was constituted during the 1st Gulf War, I like the idea of having it active again in the twilight war. You also might argue that some equipments are not right but this is due to the continuous (if limited) production of weaponry in France (Weapon factories are located in the central mountain range and this was not subjected to nukes). Also as I understand it France entered in an arm race of her own. Still she couldn’t put Leclerc tanks in all units but the remaining AMX-30 were brought up to Brenus standards. AMX-10Ps are a rare sight as most French units ride the VAB. Moreover, you should have several VBL M11. The FAR remain in the Middle East but the 11th DP was brought back to secure the southern border with Spain. I added several Belgian units and the divisions were created from the territorial reserve. They kept their own equipments (actually as Liege was not destroyed the FN is could still be functional at Herstal). I would assume the 7th Mechanized brigade and the 16th division to join the Dutch (they are Flemish speakers). The Gendarmerie is playing a major role in keeping the country together. Actually, in my game, it replaced the police and brought back its units to strength using the 50000 reserve personnel. GIGN (counter terrorist) The Air force Orbat is quite big but France remained outside of the war after all. Nevertheless, the country lost several airplanes, and I would assume France to retain a few Mirage IV and various Jaguars (didn’t fit my game so). The F-16s were added from Belgium. The Air force commands were all merged into one. The navy was badly hit when the nukes fell on the Atlantic coast. Still many ships survived and the French could constitute several naval groups. Concerning the aircraft carrier, the Richelieu would have been lost when Toulon was nuked in place of Marseille (how do you think Marseille survived?). The Clemenceau would have been sunk at Brest and the Foch would have been lost in the Mediterranean. One SSBN might still be around as one is always at see. The others could have been destroyed at Lorient. Marseille has a naval dockyard. I would assume the French speaking Belgium to be organized, but the Flemish part might be disputed or facing unrest. Luxembourg will have joined and Saarland (Germany) would be organized (long time friendship with France). Do as you see fit for the location of units, I changed it slightly or didn’t care ALAT (Army Light Aircraft, in fact helicopters) RIMAP (Pacific Naval Infantry Regiment) RSMa (Naval Support/Supply Regiment) RPIMa (Naval Airborne Infantry Regiment) REI (Foreign Legion Infantry Regiment) REC (Foreign Legion Cavalry Regiment) REP (Foreign Legion Paratrooper Regiment) RIMa (Naval Infantry Regiment): BIMa are battalions RIAOM (Overseas Combined Armed Regiment) DBLE (Foreign Legion Half Brigade, roughly Battalion+) RG (Engineer Regiment) RH (Hussar Regiment, recon) RA (Artillery Regiment) RCh (Chasseur Regiment, armoured) RHC (Helicopter Regiment) DB (Armored Division) DBL (Light Armored Division) DP (Airborne Division) DA (Alpine Division) DI (Infantry Division) DIMa (Naval Infantry Division) BA (Air Base), a few were nuked ARMY Pacific Command (New Caledonia) - 1st RIMAP (Régiment d’Infanterie de Marine du Pacifique) Manpower: 900 Assets: 6 ERC-90, 4 155FH - 2nd RIMAP Manpower: 650 Indian Ocean Regional Command (La Réunion) - 4th RSMa Manpower : 160 - 2nd RPIMa Manpower: 500 French Guyana Regional Command - 3rd RSMa (Cayenne) Manpower: 350 - 3rd REI (Kourou) Manpower: 450 - 9th RIMa (Cayenne) Manpower: 450 Carribean Regional Command - 1st RSMa (Martinique) Manpower : 190 - 33rd RIM (Martinique) Manpower: 350 - 41st BIMa (Guadeloupe) Manpower : 170 East Africa Regional Command (Djibouti) - 5th RIAOM Manpower: 450 Assets: 4 155FH - 13th DBLE Manpower: 500 Assets: 15 ERC-90 - Det ALAT “Drakkar†Manpower: 130 Assets: 2 AS-355, 2 SA-342, 3 AS-332 Western Africa Regional Command - 6th BIMa (Gabon) Manpower: 400 - 23rd BIMa (Senegal) Manpower: 350 - 43rd BIMa (Cameroon) Manpower: 350 - Det ALAT “Cougar†Manpower: 160 Assets: 2 AS-355, 5 AS-332 1st Army Corps (Interior Regions) - 72nd BIMa (Marseille) Manpower: 300 - 1st RG Manpower: 290 Assets: 5 EBG - 8th RH (Corps recon) Manpower: 270 Assets: 7 ERC-90 - 57th RA Manpower: 380 Assets: 13 AMX-Roland - 507th RCh (composed from school units) Manpower: 450 Assets: 15 AMX-30 Brenus - 1st RPIMa (Bayonne/Special Forces) Manpower: 500 - 6th RHC Manpower: 950 Assets: 11 SA-342, 8 Tirge PAH-2, 7 AS-332 - 1st DB (Pau) Manpower: 2800 Assets: 16 Leclerc, AMX-10P, VAB, AUF-1 GCT - 7th DB (Besançon) Manpower: 4100 Assets: 22 AMX-30 Brenus, AMX-10P, VAB, AUF-1 GCT, MLRS - 12th DBL (Saumur) Manpower: 2900 Assets: 22 AMX-10RC, VAB, AUF-1 GCT - 14th DBL (Montpellier) Manpower: 4200 Assets: 24 AMX-10RC, VAB, AUF-1 GCT - 11th DP (Toulouse) Manpower: 4200 Assets: 36 ERC-90, VAB, 155FH - 27th DA (Grenoble) Manpower: 4400 Assets: 29 ERC-90, Bv-206, VAB, 155FH 2nd Army Corps (Germany) - 2nd RG Manpower: 610 Assets: 12 EBG - 3rd RH (Corps recon) Manpower: 550 Assets: 35 AMX-10RC - 51st RA Manpower: 130 Assets: 7 AMX-Roland - 53rd RA Manpower: 300 Assets: 9 AMX-Roland - 11th RCh (former Berlin Regiment) Manpower: 300 Assets: 19 AMX-30 Brenus - 1st RHC Manpower: 950 Assets: 7 SA-342, 5 Tigre PAH-2, 5 AS-332 - 1st Logistic Brigade Manpower: 800 - 3rd DB (Aachen) Manpower: 4100 Assets: 18 Leclerc, VAB, AUF-1 GCT - 5th DB (Worms) Manpower: 4200 Assets: 24 Leclerc, AMX-10P, VAB, AUF-1 GCT - 15th DI (Koblenz) Manpower: 3900 3rd Army Corps (Belgium/North) - 5th RG Manpower: 460 Assets: 5 EBG - 2nd RH (Corps Recon) Manpower: 160 Assets: 12 AMX-10RC - 54th RA Manpower: 140 Assets: 6 AMX-Roland - 58th RA Manpower: 190 Assets: 8 AMX-Roland - Belgian Army Aviation Group Manpower: 150 Assets: 11 A-109A - Luxembourg Regiment Manpower: 800 - 1st Belgian Horse Rifles Regiment (Recon) Manpower: 100 Assets: 6 Scimitar - 2nd/4th Belgian Horse Rifles Regiment (Recon) Manpower: 200 cavalry - Belgian Immediate Reaction Regiment (Paratroopers) Manpower: 400 - 1st ‘Chasseur Ardenais’ Regiment (Elite Infantry similar to mountain troops) Manpower: 400 - 3rd RHC Manpower: 950 Assets: 10 SA-342, 5 Tigre PAH-2, 4 AS-332 - 2nd Logistic Brigade Manpower: 1400 - 1st Belgian Mechanized Brigade Manpower: 1350 Assets: 10 Leopard 1, AIFV, M109A2 - 7th Belgian Mechanized Brigade (Flemish) Manpower: 1400 Assets: 8 Leopard 1, AIFV, M109A2 - 2nd DB (Bruxelles) Manpower: 3200 Assets: 16 Leclerc, AMX-10, VAB, AUF-1 GCT, MLRS - 6th DBL (Antwerp) Manpower: 4400 Assets: 36 AMX-10RC, VAB, AUF-1 GCT - 10th DB (Nijmegen) Manpower: 4000 Assets: 20 AMX-30 Brenus, VAB, AUF-1 GCT - 1st Belgian Territorial DI (Liege/Verviers) Manpower: 4000 - 8th DI (Amien) Manpower: 2800 - 16th Belgian Territorial DI (Oostende/Ghent, Flemish) Manpower: 4600 Force d’Action Rapide (FAR/Rapid dployment force/Middle East) - 1st REC (UAE) Manpower: 600 Assets: 24 AMX-10RC - 1st REI (UAE) Manpower: 600 - 2nd REI (Oman, VAB) Manpower: 600 - 2nd REP (UAE, VAB) Manpower: 350 - 5th RHC (Oman) Manpower: 950 Assets: 9 SA-342, 7 Tigre PAH-2, 7 AS-332 - 9th DIMa (Oman) Manpower: 1300 Assets: 13 AMX-10RC, Bv-206, VAB, 155FH - Division Daguet (UAE) Manpower: 4500 Assets: 12 AMX-30 Brenus, 15 AMX-10RC, VAB, AUF-1 GCT, 4 SA-342, 6 Tigre PAH-2 Gendarmerie GIGN (Groupe d’Intervention de la Gendarmerie National) Manpower : 85 GBGM (Groupement Blindé de Gendarmerie Mobile/Armored Group) - 1st Group Manpower : 520 Assets : 21 AML-90, 15 VBRG - 2nd Group Manpower : 560 Assets : 9 AML-90, 29 VBRG Gendarmerie Mobile (Mobile Gendarmery, equipped with 4x4 and trucks) - 39 Mobile Squadron Manpower: 120 Gendarmerie Départementale (Local Gendarmery, equipped with civilian vehicles) - 104 Groupements de Gendarmerie (91 in France, 9 in Belgium, 2 Corse, 1 Luxembourg, 1 Saarland) Manpower: 500 Gendarmerie d’Outre-mer (Overseas Gendarmery) - Groupement de Guadeloupe (a type of unit ) Manpower : 600 Assets : 2 AS-355, 3 VBRG - Groupement de Martinique Manpower : 600 Assets : 1 AS-355, 2 AML-90, 3 VBRG - Groupement de La Réunion Manpower : 600 Assets : 1 AS-355, 2 AML-90, 3 VBRG - Groupement de Nouvelle Calédonie Manpower : 800 Assets : 2 AS-355, 2 AML-90, 3 VBRG - Groupement de Guyane Manpower : 800 Assets : 1 AS-355, 2 AML-90, 3 VBRG Republican Guard - Cavalry Regiment Manpower: 350 cavalry - 1st Infantry Regiment Manpower: 900 - 2nd Infantry Regiment Manpower: 1300 Force Aérienne CoFAST (Commandement des Forces Aériennes Stratégiques et Tactiques) BA102, Dijon - ESDA 8/950 : 4 GDF-35, 3 Crotale, 2 Radar - EC 1/2 ‘Cigognes’ : 9 Mirage 2000C - EE 2/2 ‘Côte d’Or’ : 8 Mirage 2000C BA103, Cambrai - ESDA 9/950 : 2 GDF-35, 2 Crotale, 1 Radar - EC 1/12 ‘Cambresi’ : 12 Mirage 2000C - EC 2/12 ‘Picardie’ : 10 Mirage 2000C BA105, Evreux - ESDA 11/950 : 4 GDF-35, 4 Crotale, 2 Radar - ET 1/64 ‘Béarn’ : 6 C-160 - ET 2/64 ‘Anjou’ : 5 C-160 - ET 2/61 ‘Franche-Comté’: 15 C-130 - ET 3/61 ‘Poitou’: 11 C-160 BA110, Creil-Senlis - ESDA 4/950 ‘Servance’: 3 GDF-35, 3 Crotale, 1 Radar - ET 1/62 ‘Vercors’: 2 CN-235, 4 C-212 - EH 3/67 ‘Parisis’: 3 AS-355, 2 AS-332 - GAM 56 : 3 A-320, 5 EMB-121 BA112 Reims - ESDA 3/950 ‘Lure’ : 4 GDF-35, 1 Crotale, 1 Radar - EC 1/30’Normandie-Niemen’ 12 Rafale C - EC 2/30 ‘Valois’ 10 Rafale C - EC 1/33 ‘Belfort’: 12 Mirage F-1C - EC 2/33 ‘Savoie’: 12 Mirage F-1C BA113, Saint-Dizier - ESDA 5/950’Barrois’ : 4 GDF-35, 4 Crotale, 2 Radar - EC 1/7 ‘Provence’: 10 Rafale C - EC 2/7 ‘Argonne’ : 10 Rafale C BA118, Mont-de-Marsan - ESDA 1/950’Vaccares’ : 3 GDF-35, 2 Crotale, 1 Radar - EC 1/11 ‘Roussillon’ : 6 Mirage 2000N - EC 2/11 ‘Vosges’ : 12 Mirage 2000D BA120, Cazaux - ESDA 13/950 : 4 Mistral - ETO 1/8 ‘Saintonge’: 12 Alpha Jet, 5 TB-30B - ETO 2/8 ‘Nice’: 13 Alpha Jet, 5 TB-30B - EH 1/67 ‘Pyrénées’: 2 AS-355, 4 AS-332 BA125, Istres - ESDA 10/950 ‘Monfort’ : 2 GDF-35, 2 Crotale, 1 Radar - GRV 1/93 ‘Nantes’: 4 KC-135FR - EC 3/4 ‘Limousin’: 8 Mirage 2000N - EH 5/67 ‘Alpilles’: 2 AS-355, 1 AS-332 BA126, Solenzara - ESDA 14/950 : 3 Mistral - EH 6/67 ‘Solenzara’: 2 AS-355, 2 AS-332 BA133, Nancy - ESDA 6/950 ‘Riquewihr’ : 2 GDF-35, 1 Crotale, 1 Radar - EC 1/3 ‘Navarre’: 11 Mirage 2000D - EC 2/3 ‘Champagne’: 14 Mirage 2000D BA701, Salon de Porvence - ESDA 12/950 : 4 Mistral - EPAA 300: 4 Alpha Jet, 15 TB-30B BA702, Avord - ESDA 2/950 ‘Sancerre’ : 2 GDF-35, 1 Crotale, 1 Radar - EDCA 36 ‘Berry’ : 2 E-3F BA 000 Florennes (Belgium) - ESDA 7/950 : 5 GDF-35, 1 Crotale, 1 Radar - 1ère Escadrille ‘Chardon’ : 6 F-16 - 31e Escadrille ‘Tigre’ : 8 F-16 - 40e Escadrille : 2 Alouette III, 3 Sea King Commandement Océan Indien - ETOM 50 ‘Réunion’ (La Réunion) : 2 AS-332, 2 CN-235 Commandement Moyent Orient (Oman) - EC 2/5 ‘Île de France’: 12 Mirage 2000C - EC 2/4 ‘La Fayette’: 14 Mirage 2000N - ET 1/61 ‘Tourraine’ : 6 C-160 - GRV 2/93 ‘Rennes’ : 2 KC-135FR Commandement Mer Rouge (Djibouti) - EC 4/33 ‘Vexin’ (Djibouti) : 5 Mirage 2000C - ETOM 88 ‘Larzac’ (Djibouti): 2 AS-332, 1 C-160 Commandement Afrique (Gabon) - EC 3/30 ‘Lorraine’ : 10 Mirage F-1C - ETM 1/40 ‘Moselle’: 2 TB-30B, 3 AS-355 - ETOM 55 ‘Houessan’ : 2 AS-355, 2 AS-332, 1 C-160 Commandement Pacifique (Nouvelle Calédonie) - ETOM 52 “La Tontouta†: 1 AS-355, 2 AS-332, 2 CN-235 Commandement Antilles - EHOM 68 ‘Guyane’ (Guyane) : 1 AS-355, 3 AS-332 - ETOM 58 ‘Antilles’ (Martinique) : 2 AS-332, 2 CN-235 Marine Nationale Pacific Naval Group - F731 Prairial and F734 Vendémiaire (1 Alouette III) - L9032 Dumont d’Urville and L9033 Jacques Cartier - P686 La Glorieuse, P688 La Moqueuse, and P691 La Tapageuse - Flotille 25F: 2 EMB-121 Mediterranean Naval Group (Marseille) - Flotille 21F (Nimes): 5 Br-1151 Atlantic - R91 Charles De Gaulle (13 Rafale M, 12 Super Etendard, 2 E-2C, 2 Lynx) - D616 Forbin (1 SA-365) - D615 Jean Bart (1 SA-365) - F710 Lafayette and F714 Guepratte (1 SA-365) - P677 Cormoran and P683 La Boudeuse - M641 Eridan and M644 Pegase - A631 Sommes - S601 Rubis Indian Ocean Naval Group (Djibouti/La Réunion) - R97 Jeanne d’Arc (2 Alouette III, 3 SA-321G) - D612 De Grasse (2 Lynx) - F730 Floréal (1 SA-365) - F910 Wielingen - P902 Libération - A607 Meuse - S606 Perle Atlantic Naval Group (Martinique) - D641 Dupleix (1 Lynx) - D642 Montcalm (1 Lynx) - F735 Germinal (1 Alouette III) - P682 L’Audacieuse - M645 Orion - A608 Var Naval Assault Group - D603 Duquesne - F789 LV Le Henaff and F797 Cmdt Bouan - L9012 Siroco (2 Lynx, 1 SA-365) and L9031 Francis Garnier Last edited by Mohoender; 09-14-2008 at 11:58 AM. |
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