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Old 05-11-2012, 09:55 AM
Olefin Olefin is offline
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Default Howling Wilderness timeline issues

I have made arguments that the HW timeline is incorrect so I will post some of them here

Lets start with the Ozarks

If you go to that module it doesnt officially start until March of 2001 with the characters beginning their infiltration of the Ozark area, which would be expected to last weeks if not months. Capturing the dirigible means a lot of play time to find the base, plan on getting it and then getting it back to Memphis.

that timeline is official GDW timeline not mine in an issued module - you literally cannot start the event till March of 2001

and the attack that will follow by MilGov doesnt start until after the characters return with the dirigible.

But what does HW state - it states a US govt attack using the dirigible that starts in March 2001 - i.e. it has the attack start before the events of the module can even occur

And New America is an unknown force in March of 2001 - the specific module language is the mystery that is New America - meaning its unknown

So the battles against New America that supposedly happen in March of 2001that cause all the casualties to the 85th could not have happened by the April 1, 2001 date in the HW timeline.

The module can not be run as it is layed out, with the characters returnign with the info and the dirigible and then an offensive planned and conducted in that timeframe, especially as the HW timeline says the offensive happened and the Ozarks were freed from New America and the 85th Division had been hit hard and already returned to its LA base all by April 1, 2001.

Sorry but no dice - not by April 1, 2001.

Thus what HW stated as to the 85th and 98th division could not have happened by the timeframe in the module. It directly contradicts previous established canon and thus, in my opinon, is not canon as it is written. You can have the affect it mentions but not by April 1, 2001. It would take probably till at least June for those events to occur if not later.

You cant have one without the other - either Ozarks is wrong or HW is wrong. Thus strike one against the HW timeline and its affect on US formations.

Oh and Ozarks is very clear that it was played in order with either Armies of the Night or Red Star, Lone Star being played previously and the characters recruited based on their accomplishments therein or that they had done previous campaigns in the US. And NA didnt appear until Jan 1, 2001 - so you cant move the module start date back.
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