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dude_uk 06-19-2008, 02:46 PM Hi


Long term lurker de lurking to reply to the guest thread and to make a request about some lost threads (Some may be several years old). Whilst the internet archive records the name the threads are no longer there.


http://web.archive.org/web/20060310040647/forums.rpghost.com/archive/index.php/f-70-p-3.html


So if anyone has copies thanks.


1) Nato ORBAT I believe this was the complete order of battle for nato forces in 1996.


2)Portsmouth UK This was a thread created by the poster 'Rainbow six' it contained a complete ORBAT for British forces across the UK. The status of 'Irregular' forces. Soviet forces 'England'. It also discussed life in the UK after the bomb. In short it could be used in conjunction or as an alternative to the Survivors guide to the UK.


3) NATO Combined ADVENT CROWN OOB 1 APR 97 Might be the same as the first one.


If you have them cheers!

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TiggerCCW UK 06-20-2008, 05:00 AM Welcome to the boards Dude. Sorry I can't help with any of the threads - I had some saved on my old PC but it died. Anything else we can help with? What part of the UK are you based in? There're a few of us brits on here and its nice to see another one to bolster the ranks. Are you planning in trying to get a game started?

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Targan 06-20-2008, 05:06 AM 3) NATO Combined ADVENT CROWN OOB 1 APR 97 Might be the same as the first one.Pretty sure at least that one is on my harddrive at home. I'll post it here over the weekend.

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thefusilier 06-20-2008, 07:43 AM Welcome. I may have some of those too. Let me check around my PC and I'll put em up if I do.

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SongofWar 06-20-2008, 12:21 PM http://forums.rpghost.com/showthread.php?t=41398&highlight=advent

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:05 PM Well crikey, that was a bit of coincindental timing...I haven't been around these boards for months (if not years) due to one thing or another other than the occasional lurk...one of which happened to be tonight...


I don't have any of the threads you're after, but I do have the orbats saved to my PC, so will repost them...

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:10 PM (Please note that I have made some tweaks to this, mainly to reduce the unit strengths, so it may be slightly different from any saved versions of the original)


UKLF 01 August 2000


UKLF HQ - Salisbury, Wiltshire

33rd Engineer Regiment (EOD), Royal Engineers

10th Signal Regiment, Royal Signals

71st Yeomanry Signal Regt, Royal Signals (TA) (Oxford)

4th Battalion, Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers

7th Transport Regiment, Royal Logistics Corps

3rd Regiment, Royal Military Police

202nd (Midlands) /207th (Manchester) Field Hospital (TA)


2nd Battalion, The Parachute Regiment (Less A Company)

Effective strength - 200 men

Subordination: UKLF HQ

Location - Salisbury, Wiltshire. .


Zulu Squadron, 22nd SAS Regiment

Effective strength: 33 men

Subordination: UKLF HQ (reporting to Director, Special Forces)

Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire.


S Squadron, Commachio Group, Royal Marines

Effective strength: 75 men

Subordination: UKLF HQ

Location: South Shields, Offshore oil rigs


W Kompanie, Royal Netherlands Marine Corps

Effective strength: 50 men

Subordination: nominally none (Queen of the Netherlands bodyguard)

Location: Oxford


The Household Brigade

Location - Oxford, with detachments at Reading and RAF Brize Norton

Subordination: UKLF HQ

Effective Strength - 500 men, 1 x FV4030 Challenger, 1 x FV4201 Chieftain, 1 x M60A1, 1 x Sherman, 1 x Tiger Tank, 3 x FV107 Scimitar CVR(T)

The Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment

The Life Guards

2nd Battalion, The Grenadier Guards

1st Battalion, The Irish Guards



Unit Histories

2nd Battalion, The Parachute Regiment

Repatriated to UK by air on 09 December 1998 to assist in the maintenance of law and order. Now serving as the UKLF HQ Rapid Reaction Force, with limited airlift capability supplied by the RAF. D Company formed from elements of 1st/2nd King Edward VII’s Own Gurkha Rifles (the Simoor Rifles). Unlike most units, has not practiced local recruiting, so all personnel are experienced combat veterans.



Zulu Squadron, 22nd SAS Regiment

Formed from various Special Forces personnel based in the UK. Serving as UKLF Special Purpose Force, with limited airlift capability supplied by the RAF. Strength includes two US Navy Seals and one German KSK commando.



S Squadron, Commachio Group, Royal Marines

Part of the pre-war Royal Marines Commandos tasked with the security of the Royal Navy’s nuclear submarines and weapons, S Squadron of the Commachio Group is currently tasked with protecting the UK’s remaining functioning oil rigs, a role it performs with the support of Royal Navy and RAF assets in the North East. Unlike most units, has hardly practiced any local recruiting, preferring to maintain its elite force status.



W Kompanie, Royal Netherlands Marine Corps

Arrived in the UK aboard the HNLMS De Ruyter in March 1998 with the Dutch Queen, W Kompanie is based in Oxford and maintains its role as bodyguard to the exiled Sovereign of the Netherlands.



The Household Brigade

The Household Brigade is currently serving as the primary security force for Her Majesty’s Government as well as carrying out its traditional role as the Sovereign’s bodyguard. The Scimitars are operated by the HCMR, which also has a 60 strong mounted troop; the heavy tanks, which came from the Tank Museum at Bovington, Dorset, are operated by the Life Guards. The two Regiments of Foot Guards also provide detachments of approximately Company size to each of the garrisons at Reading, and RAF Brize Norton .




Southern District HQ - Warminster, Wiltshire

23rd Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers

101st (London) Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)

37th (Wessex & Welsh) Signal Regt, Royal Signals (TA)


2nd Infantry Brigade

Location - Warminster, Salisbury, Winchester, Basingstoke (HQ Warminster)

Subordination: Southern District

Effective strength - 1000 men, 2 x FV4030 Challenger MBT, 5 x FV510 Warrior IFV, 3 x FV101 Scorpion CVR(T), 7 x FV721 Fox CVR(W)

C Squadron, 9th/12th Royal Lancers

1st Battalion, The Royal Irish Rangers (Less B Company)

1st Battalion, The Light Infantry

1st Battalion, The Gordon Highlanders

The North Irish Horse (TA)


43rd (Wessex) Infantry Brigade (TA)

Effective strength: 1200 men, 5 x Fox CVR(W), 2 x Ferret CVR(W)

Subordination: Southern District

Location: Cheltenham, Gloucester, Bath, Swindon (HQ Cheltenham)

The Royal Wessex Yeomanry

1st Battalion, The Wessex Regiment

2nd Battalion, The Wessex Regiment

2nd Battalion, The Mercian Volunteers

39th (Skinners) Signal Regiment, Royal Signals


44th Infantry Brigade (HSF)

Effective strength: 1100 men

Subordination: Southern District

Location: Dispersed in numerous small detachments throughout Wiltshire, Oxfordshire, Berkshire, and Hampshire

1st Battalion, Oxfordshire Volunteers

1st Battalion, Hampshire Volunteers

1st Battalion, Wiltshire Volunteers


143rd Infantry Brigade (TA)

Effective strength: 800 men

Subordination: Southern District

Location: Brigade HQ Shrewsbury, numerous small detachments along the English / Welsh border

5th Battalion, The Light Infantry

7th Battalion, The Light Infantry

4th Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Wales (A Company only)


16th Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery

Effective strength: 250 men

Subordination: Southern District

Location: Canterbury



75th Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)

Effective strength: 400 men

Subordination: Southern District

Location: Dover



Unit Histories


2nd Infantry Brigade

Upon the outbreak of War, 2nd Brigade, based in the south of England and then consisting of 1/LI, 1/ Gordons, and 1/RRW, was tasked to UK Home defence. Throughout the early stages of the War, the Brigade’s Battalions provided a steady stream of replacement personnel to the BAOR, the gaps caused in their own manpower being made up in turn by Territorial personnel and new recruits.


During the first wave of nuclear attacks, 1/RRW was virtually destroyed in the attack on Aldershot; surviving personnel were used to reinforce the other two Battalions; 1/LI was also based at Aldershot, but was away from camp during nuclear strikes so survived relatively unscathed, although many personnel lost family members. The Brigade was brought back up to full strength in early January 1998 when it took under command 1/RIR and C Sqn, 9/12 RL (both of these units had been based at the School of Infantry, Warminster, training recruits).


The Brigade has carried out a series of disaster relief missions throughout the Wiltshire, and Hampshire areas, and is currently tasked with maintaining law and order and aiding in civil reconstruction in these Counties. All FV510’s currently attached to 1/RIR. (B Company 1/RIR and A Sqn, 9/12 RL currently deployed to CFB Suffield, Canada as part of British Army Training Team Canada ).



43rd (Wessex) Brigade (TA)

43rd Brigade was formed in early 1997, taking under command various Territorial Army units based in the Southwest of England. Initially tasked with a home defence role, the Brigade has maintained law and order in its area of operations throughout the War. Augmented by various HSF units that it has taken under command, 43rd Brigade is in regular contact with 2nd Brigade HQ at Warminster, and operates throughout Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, and Somerset, patrolling as far South as Yeovil and Taunton.



44th Infantry Brigade (HSF)

44th Brigade was formed from Home Service Force volunteers following the first wave of nuclear strikes, and given the 44th Brigade designation in honour of the former 44th (Home Counties) Division. Most of its units have undergone some period of training at the School of Infantry in Warminster, and are reasonably well equipped, albeit with older equipment. Currently, 44th Brigade units are dispersed in small groups throughout four southern Counties, acting as local defence forces.



143rd Infantry Brigade (TA)


Formed in early 1997, 143rd Brigade’s primary task is patrolling the England / Wales border. Relations between the Brigade and the Welsh forces opposite them are relatively cordial; whilst there has been sporadic clashes, traders can generally cross the border freely in both directions. The Brigade currently has a number of Welsh troops in its ranks who have remained loyal to HMG.

The Brigade also has a limited role in civil reconstruction in the Midlands. In practice, however, 143rd Brigade units rarely venture outside their area of operations. A de facto truce exists with various unlawful groups in the Midlands - so long as the marauders do not encroach in to the Brigade’s territory, they are left alone. This suits the marauders fine - they are quite happy to stay within their areas, preying on the communities there rather than picking a fight with those who can fight back.



16th Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery

Originally part of 7th Air Defence Brigade with two TA formations and tasked with London Air Defence, 16th Regt suffered heavy casualties in the first wave of nuclear attacks. Following HMG’s withdrawal from London, the Regiment was reassigned to disaster relief missions in South East England, taking under command the survivors of the two TA formations to bring it up to strength. Now based in Canterbury, the Regt spends most of its time in anti marauder activity and rarely ventures outside the heavily fortified Canterbury perimeter. Is in occasional contact with 75th Engineer Regt in Dover.



75th Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)

Isolated from other commands; Nominally engaged in civic reconstruction in Dover, in practice Regt spends most of its time combating marauder activity. Units rarely venture outside Dover perimeter. Augmented by local levies. Is in occasional contact with 16th Air Defence Regiment in Canterbury.


In practice, both 16th Regt RA and 75th Regt RE are fighting to maintain the smallest vestige of law and order in the south east of England. Morale in both units is low, and both CO’s have asked for their units to be evacuated and transferred to more stable areas, but HMG has persistently denied this permission, stating the importance of retaining a foothold in the South East.




Northern District HQ - Catterick, North Yorkshire

72nd (Tyne) Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA) (Newcastle)

34th (Northern) Signal Regiment, Royal Signals (TA)

201st (Northern) Field Hospital (TA) (Newcastle)

102nd Battalion, Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers (TA)


50th Infantry Brigade

Effective strength: 750 men

Subordination: Northern District

Location: Newcastle, South Shields (HQ South Shields)

A Company, 2nd Battalion, The Parachute Regiment

10th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Parachute Regiment (TA)

22nd Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery

1st Battalion, Northumbrian Volunteers (HSF)


54th Infantry Brigade

Effective strength: 1000 men, 3 x FV510 Warrior IFV, 7 x Fox CVR(W)

Subordination: Northern District

Location: Middlesbrough, Stockton on Tees, Darlington (HQ Catterick Garrison)

2nd Battalion, The Royal Green Jackets

5th Battalion, The Queen’s Regiment (TA)

The Queen’s Own Mercian Yeomanry (TA)


4th Battalion, The King’s Own Royal Border Regiment (TA)

Effective Strength - 600 men

Subordination: Northern District (formerly 42nd Brigade)

Location - Carlisle



Unit Histories


50th Infantry Brigade


50th Infantry Brigade was not formed until the 23rd of June 1998, taking on the title of the former 50th (Northumbrian) Division. Upon establishment, the Brigade took under command an ad hoc assortment of units that had been serving in the North East of England; 10th (Volunteer) Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, a Territorial Army formation, which had been tasked with ensuring the security of the South Shields port area and the North Sea pipeline terminal and refinery, together with 22nd Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery, a regular unit responsible for protecting the terminal and port area from aerial threats; and the 1st Battalion, Northumbrian Volunteers, a locally raised Home Service Force Battalion.


Chronically under strength since its formation, most of the artillerymen now serve as infantry as the threat from Soviet bombers has all but evaporated. Recognising the vital importance of maintaining the flow of North Sea oil, HMG reinforced the Brigade in January 1999 with A Company of the 2nd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, combat veterans brought back from the European campaign.


Currently, 50th Brigade remains responsible for the security of South Shields / Newcastle / Gateshead urban area. However, whilst the Brigade contains some of the most effective troops in the UK, a lack of manpower is restricting the its operations, in particular its capability to patrol outside the urban area. This has led to the creation of several relatively stable enclaves in a sea of increasing disorder.


50th Brigade is in constant communication with 54th Brigade at Catterick. 7th Transport Regiment, RLC operates regular fuel convoys from South Shields to both Catterick and Southern District. These convoys are always escorted by heavily armed paratroopers.


In addition to 50th Brigade units, South Shields is also the base for S Squadron, the Commachio Group, Royal Marines, and a small Royal Navy presence tasked with protecting the offshore oil rigs.



54th Infantry Brigade


54th Brigade was formed at Catterick Garrison in early January 1997. When formed it consisted of 4/QLR, 5/Queens, and the QoMY, and was tasked to UK home defence. Following the first wave of nuclear strikes, the Brigade was deployed in the industrial area around Catterick, coordinating disaster relief and maintaining law and order, a role that it is still carrying out. It was reinforced in early 1999 by a regular Battalion, 2/RGJ, who had been part of the UKLF Reserve. HMG’s plans had been to use the extra manpower to gradually expand operations until a link up could be effected with 50th Brigade and a secure road corridor established between the two formations. The desertion of 4/QLR soon afterwards has put this plan on hold for the time being however.


4th Battalion, The King’s Own Royal Border Regiment (TA)


Survived nuclear exchanges relatively intact. Still loyal to HMG, though relatively isolated from other commands, the Battalion is actively conducting motorised patrols in the Battalion Area of Operations, using Land Rovers and requisitioned civilian 4 x 4’s . These patrols have made occasional peaceful contact with Scottish Defence Force patrols. Has carried out considerable post strike recruitment, and is relatively close to pre War strength. Battalion is last unit of 42nd Brigade that is still an intact military unit.

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:13 PM The Home Service Force (HSF) (Note that whilst there was at one time a Real World HSF, it bears no resemblance to the HSF as outlined in this post)


On the 12th of October 1997 an Act was passed by the Emergency Parliament to raise the Home Service Force to augment the Regular and Territorial units currently engaged in maintaining law and order within the UK.


Under the Act, locally raised volunteers were formed into provisional units for service in their local area only. Discretion was given to local commanders in terms of recruiting - volunteers could be aged between 17 and 45 (much older then the upper age limit for the Regulars and the TA); those with minor criminal records were accepted, as were those with illnesses / ailments that would have precluded them from passing a normal military fitness test.


The majority of Counties in England raised some form of HSF Unit, although it varied from Battalions in some areas to under strength Companies in others (particularly those hit by the nuclear strikes). The quality of training also varied - those units located near to a Regular unit generally received a good standard of training, but some units were effectively left to their own devices, gleaning what training they could from former soldiers within their ranks. They were equipped with old weapons - in some case near obsolete - from emergency stocks - primarily SLR’s and sterling SMG’s.


The effectiveness of the HSF also varied. A few units performed in an exemplary manner, assisting the authorities in maintaining the rule of law and carrying out civil defence and reconstruction tasks. A few units drew their weapons then turned marauder, terrorising the very areas that they were meant to protect. The vast majority simply concentrated on defending their local area.


By the 01st of August 2000, only a few HSF units remain on the order of battle; most of the units still following the orders of higher command have been disbanded and their personnel used to augment the Regular and TA Units in their areas, whilst the remainder have either dispersed or become local militia forces loyal only to their own communities.


The personnel still attached to HSF in the Southern Military District units have been broken into small groups of no more than platoon size scattered throughout their Battalion areas of operation. In many ways, these citizen soldiers are similar to the Home Guard of the last World War; they are based within their local communities, and in many instances when off duty they lead a normal civilian life with their families, with the entire unit only mustering in times of crisis. The single Northern Military District HSF unit is currently operating in Battalion strength in the Newcastle / South Shields metropolitan area, as part of 50th Infantry Brigade.

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:14 PM The Royal Navy 01 August 2000


Devonport

HMS York (D98) (Type 42 Destroyer)

HMS Chatham (F87) (Type 22 Frigate)

HMS Grafton (F80) (Type 23 Frigate)

HMS Trafalgar (S107) (Submarine)

HMS Atherstone (M38) (Minesweeper)

HNLMS De Ruyter (F804) (Frigate)

HNLMS Willem van der Zaan (F829) (Frigate)

HNLMS Dolfijn (S808) (Submarine)


Portsmouth

HMS Marlborough (F233) (Type 23 Frigate)

HMS Richmond (F239) (Type 23 Frigate)

HMS Inverness (M102) (Minesweeper)

RFA Sir Galahad (L3005) (Landing Ship Logistic)

USS Normandy (CG60) (Aegis Cruiser)


South Shields

HMS Campbeltown (F86) (Type 22 Frigate)

HNLMS Van Nes (F833) (Frigate)

HMS Dulverton (M35) (Minesweeper)

HMS Sandown (M101) (Minesweeper)

HMS Ledbury (M30) (Minesweeper)

HMS Dumbarton Castle (P265) (Offshore patrol vessel)


Royal Navy Shore Detachments

Drake Company - 450 men, Devonport

Nelson Company - 300 men, Portsmouth

Rodney Company - 300 men, Devonport

Mountbatten Company - 100 men, South Shields

Jellicoe Company - 250 men, Portsmouth


46 Commando (Royal Marines Reserve) - 250 men, Devonport, Portsmouth


Formed from shore based personnel, the Royal Navy Shore Detachments in Devonport and Portsmouth provide local security to the Naval bases in these Cities as well the surrounding areas. The South Shields Detachment serves solely as a security force for the South Shields port area. The Royal Marines of 46 Cdo are split in to two equally sized Company groups, one based in Portsmouth and one in Devonport, with a small HQ Company in Devonport.

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:17 PM 3rd Battalion, The Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters (TA)

Effective strength - 150 men

Subordination: none; lawful

Location - Mansfield


Suffered significant casualties in the nuclear attacks. Post strike, Battalion consolidated around A Company in Mansfield. Still loyal to HMG but unwilling to move out of local area. Effectively serving as a militia force for that location. Seriously under strength. Resources limited.


5th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers / 35th (South Midlands) Signal Regt (both TA)

Effective strength: 300

Subordination: none; lawful

Location: Warwick


5th RRF deployed in Birmingham area on disaster relief following nuclear strikes. Virtually destroyed in outbreaks of the riots that followed the breakdown of law and order. Survivors consolidated with 35th Signal Regt as reinforced Company sized unit in area around Warwick. Nominally loyal to HMG, but in practice would disobey any order to move out.


37th (Wessex & Welsh) Signal Regiment (TA)

Effective strength: 240

Subordination: none; lawful

Location: Northampton


Currently serving as core of Northampton defence forces.



6th / 7th Battalion, The Queen’s Regiment (TA)

Effective strength - 650 men

Subordination: none; semi lawful

Location - Brighton


Following the nuclear strikes, 6th/7th Queens were involved in disaster relief in local area. Have consolidated in Brighton with 217th General Hospital, RAMC, and are heavily fortified. Nominally loyal to HMG, in practice quasi independent. Rarely patrol outside immediate area. Reports that refugees have been turned back by gunfire. Absorbed many survivors of 56th Brigade (London). One unlawful breakaway group (approx Company size) has taken over Crawley area, scavenging Gatwick Airport together with survivors of 103rd Battalion, REME..



4th Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment (TA)

Effective strength: 300 men

Subordination: none; unlawful

Location - TBD


Intact and a cohesive military unit, the 4th QLR is no longer accepting orders from higher headquarters. The Battalion CO has declared himself ruler of the Battalion Area of Responsibility, with his own interpretations of the martial law proclamations of 1997/98. Law is enforced draconically, with capital punishment (generally by hanging owing to the shortage of ammunition) mandated for a number of crimes which were either minor offences or not an offence at all under the original proclamations. Bodies of those executed are frequently left hanging in their communities for several days as a warning to others.


Harrogate Militia (formerly 3rd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers (TA))

Effective strength: 800 men

Subordination: none; semi lawful

Location: Harrogate


Currently forming the core of the Free City of Harrogate Defence Force


Konev’s Wolves

Effective strength: 45 men

Subordination: none; Unlawful

Location: South West England


Survivors of a group of Soviet POW’s who escaped from their prison camp in Devon. Before the strikes the Camp held prisoners classified as Category A, meaning that all were ardent Communists. Most were either Spetznaz, Airborne captured in Norway, plus some KGB and Political Officers.


In the confusion following the nuclear exchanges, the prisoners overpowered their guards killing them and taking their weapons.. Following their escape, the POW’s, then numbering approx 100, took advantage of the anarchy going on all around to take over a small town near the camp and go on an orgy of rape, looting, and murder. Elements of the Wessex Regiment (TA) were sent to retake the town, but seriously underestimated both the strength and skills of the Soviets. The Wessex’s attack was repulsed, and they suffered heavy casualties.


HMG then sent a regular unit from the UKLF Reserve, 1st Battalion, The Royal Irish Rangers, against the Soviets, and after a protracted battle, the Rangers were able to drive the Soviets from the town.


Following their defeat, the surviving Soviets took to the countryside. Some split into small groups, most of which have been either dispersed or been rounded up, but one large group stayed together under the command of Major Nikolai B Konev, a former Political Officer in the 76th Guards Air Assault. His Deputy is Captain Vladimir I Bondarkeno, formerly Spetznaz. They now call themselves Konev’s Wolves, and are well equipped with equipment taken from the Wessex Regiment (although supplies of fuel and ammunition are limited).


The Colchester Crew

Effective strength: 400 men, 1 x FV721 Fox CVR(W)

Subordination: none; Unlawful

Location: Colchester


The Colchester crew is formed around a core of former inmates of the Military Corrective Training Centre, at Colchester, Essex, most of whom had been convicted of serious offences (most prisoners convicted of minor offences had been returned to their units) who escaped during the wave of disorder and anarchy that followed the first nuclear strikes, killing their guards and taking their weapons in the process. The prisoners seized control of the town of Colchester, plunging it in to a reign of terror and repulsing attacks by the Royal Anglian Regiment.


The Colchester Crew has grown in strength since then as civilian marauder groups and military deserters have made their way to Colchester to join them. The people of Colchester live under a regime of virtual slavery, with murder and rape everyday events.


The undisputed leader of the Colchester Crew is Private Mark Bowen, formerly of the Parachute Regiment, who was serving a sentence for attempted murder prior to the breakout. He is rarely seen without his dog, a pit bull terrier named Winston. Bowen holds captive in Colchester Lieutenant Commander Amanda Kerslake of the Royal Navy, who was a psychologist on the prison staff before the breakout. Kerslake is the daughter of Admiral Sir Simon Kerslake, currently Chief of the UK General Staff.

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:18 PM Ground Forces - HQ Norwich


6th Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment

Effective strength: 950 men

Major Locations: Bury St Edmunds, Ipswich, Norwich, Great Yarmouth


6th RAR is a TA unit which was mobilised in late 1996 with three Companies (A,B, and C). The Battalion was assigned to home defence duties in its local area (Norfolk and Suffolk). Throughout 1997 it remained in place in East Anglia. Approximately 150 men were deployed to BAOR as replacements, but the Battalion‘s numbers stayed fairly constant as new recruits made up its shortfall.


Following the first wave of nuclear attacks on the UK, the Battalion was immediately assigned to assist the Civil authorities in maintaining law and order and providing disaster relief. The latter task in particular stretched their resources to the limit as they dealt with a huge number of refugees coming in to the area from the London area. The Battalion also had to fight several skirmishes with armed groups encroaching on their territory from the Essex area.


Following the second wave of nuclear strikes, Essex descended further into anarchy, with the town of Colchester being seized by escaped prisoners from the Military prison there. Ordered to move against these prisoners, elements of 6th RAR fought several battles against them, suffering heavy casualties without being able to restore order to the Colchester area, and finally being forced to retreat back to Suffolk.


Soon afterwards, in mid 1998, the Norfolk and Suffolk District Councils, in conjunction with senior Military Officers, and fearing that their own area was about to implode under the weight of refugees and marauder attacks, declared the Norfolk and Suffolk borders closed. At this point, 6th RAR, along with the other Military forces in the region began obeying the orders of local Commanders only.


The Battalion has continued to recruit, forming a fourth Company (D Company) from locally recruited volunteers and personnel separated from their own units. As of 01st August 2000, it has garrisons in Bury St Edmunds, Ipswich, Norwich, and Great Yarmouth, with patrols found throughout the East Anglia area.


Approximately 70% of its strength is concentrated in the Ipswich and Bury St Edmunds garrisons, patrolling the border with Essex that is formed by the Stour river. The Border is officially closed to all, but a limited amount of merchant traffic continues to pass in both directions. Refugees still regularly attempt to enter the East Anglia area, believing it to be a paradise compared to conditions in Essex. East Anglia patrols have standing orders to turn all refugees back, orders which have caused a moral dilemma for many a patrol commander.




51st Squadron, Royal Air Force Regiment

Effective strength: 350 men

Location: RAF Marham, King’s Lynn


Augmented by numerous surplus RAF ground personnel and local volunteers, 51st Squadron garrisons King’s Lynn and the RAF base at nearby Marham, and patrols south along the Great Ouse river as far as the Cambridgeshire border.



58th Squadron, Royal Air Force Regiment

Effective strength: 400 men, 4 x FV107 CVR(T) Scorpion

Location: RAF Coltishall, Norwich


Augmented by numerous surplus RAF ground personnel and local volunteers, 58th Squadron garrisons RAF Coltishall near Norwich. Additionally, its FV107 Scorpions provide the East Anglian forces with a limited light armoured Quick Reaction Force.



The Abraham Lincoln Brigade

Effective strength: 550 men

Location: RAF Lakenheath, Thetford


Formed from USAFE personnel based at RAF Lakenheath, the Abraham Lincoln Brigade patrols from Thetford as far west as the Cambridgeshire border and as far south as Bury St Edmunds.



The George Washington Brigade

Effective strength: 350 men

Location: RAF Bentwaters, Woodbridge


Formed from USAFE personnel based at RAF Bentwaters, the George Washington Brigade has probably the easiest patrol area of the East Anglian forces, covering the area along the North Sea coast between Ipswich and Norwich.



Both US Brigades use standard US equipment, so it is not uncommon to encounter Humvees on the East Anglian roads. All East Anglian forces suffer from limited resources in terms of weapons and ammunition. Patrols found away from their bases and the garrisons along the Essex border will generally be adequately armed, but within the garrisons themselves everything except pistols are in short supply. Morale is on the whole quite high, as all forces, including the Americans, feel that they are protecting and defending their own families and homes.



Air Forces


RAF Marham: 4 x Tornado GR4

RAF Lakenheath: 5 x F15E

RAF Bentwaters: 3 x F16C (USAFE); 1 x F16A (Royal Dutch Air Force)


All the bases hold sufficient stocks of munitions for multiple sorties, but only a very limited amount of aviation fuel is available for these aircraft; therefore, the authority to use aircraft would only be granted in a situation of direst emergency.

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:21 PM (Note all Welsh language titles were done using an online translator, so 100% accuracy is not guaranteed)


Bragad chan Cymru

(Army of Wales)


HQ - 50 men - Caernarfon


1st Anad Grymoedd Dwr “Owain Glynd?r” (1st Special Forces Group “Owain Glynd?r”)

Effective strength: 40 men

Location: Caernarfon


The 1st Special Forces Group is the Welsh Government’s special purpose force, kept in reserve at the Welsh Capital, Caernarfon. The Group is formed from active duty and recently retired military personnel who have served in either the Special Air Service, the Parachute Regiment, the Royal Marine Commandos, or any other Special Forces unit. As with all other Welsh military units, the 1st Special Forces Group is not exclusively Welsh - it counts six Englishmen (two of whom are ex French Foreign Legion), two Scotsmen, and a South African in its ranks. Its members can be easily identified by their maroon berets.



1st Cavalry Bataliwn “Dewi Sant” (1st Cavalry Battalion “Saint David”)

Effective strength: 250 cavalry, 2 x FV107 Scimitar CVR(T), 5 x FV721 Fox CVR(W)

Location: Landrindod Wells


Formed from recruits with horse riding experience and supported by a small armoured force, the 1st Cavalry is the Welsh Government’s mobile quick reaction force, standing ready to reinforce any of the Infantry formations should they encounter a serious threat. Like the 1st Special Forces Group, many of the 1st Cavalry’s troopers have previous military experience with the British Army.



1st Infantry Bataliwn “Llywelyn ap Iorwerth” (1st Infantry Battalion “Llywelyn the Great”) (formerly 3rd Battalion, Royal Welch Fusiliers (TA))

Effective strength: 550 men

Location: Dispersed along the southern half of the Welsh / English Border from Monmouth to Newtown


Formed from a cadre of Welsh Territorial soldiers and augmented by local recruits, the 1st Infantry has responsibility for patrolling the southern half of the Welsh English border.



2nd Infantry Bataliwn “Rhodri ap Merfyn” (2nd Infantry Battalion “Rhodri Mawr” (formerly 3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales (TA))

Effective strength: 450 men

Location: Dispersed along the northern half of the Welsh / English Border from Wrexham to Newtown


Formed from a cadre of Welsh Territorial soldiers and augmented by local recruits, the 2nd Infantry has responsibility for patrolling the northern half of the Welsh English border.


Both the 1st and 2nd Infantry come in to occasional contact with troops of the British 143rd Brigade. Whilst a few of these encounters have led to fighting, in general they are non violent, with both sides turning a blind eye to merchants crossing between England and Wales. Refugees on the other hand will be turned back, with force if necessary. This has caused the emergence of a new breed of black marketer, the people smugglers, bringing refugees across the border and into Wales.



3rd Infantry Bataliwn “Gwynfor Evans” (3rd Infantry Battalion “Gwynfor Evans”

Effective strength: 500 men

Location: Dispersed throughout North Wales


Formed from locally raised recruits, the 3rd Infantry is tasked with local security within North Wales, and as such is dispersed in to numerous small groups in towns and villages throughout the area.



1st Fagnelau Bataliwn “Llywelyn ap Gruffudd” (1st Artillery Battalion “Llywelyn the Last” (formerly 104th Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA))

Effective strength: 400 men

Location: Dispersed throughout South Wales


Formed around the core of the 104th Regiment, RA, despite its name the 1st Artillery is currently serving in an Infantry role, providing local security throughout South Wales, and like the 3rd Infantry is dispersed throughout the region; one detachment is assigned to scavenging duties in the industrial areas of South Wales, avoiding the areas that were the direct targets of nuclear attack.



All Welsh military units wear standard British uniforms, and use standard British weapons and equipment. The only modification to the uniforms is the addition of the Welsh flag on the left shoulder and new cap badges, with each unit having a new cap badge (although many personnel who previously served in the British Army still retain their old cap badges). Weapons tend to be older, i.e. SLR’s and sterling SMG’s. Welsh units have a small amount of vehicles, again generally of the older variety, i.e. FV603 Saracens, Ferrets, etc.


Although the Welsh Government has given all units Welsh titles, in practice most units still use English as their standard language for two reasons; firstly, the number of non Welsh personnel in each unit, and secondly because not all Welsh people speak Welsh.

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:27 PM This has never been posted before, and as the title says is very much a work still in progress



Scotland in the Twilight War


Pre War - Country Overview


Prior to the outbreak of the Twilight War, Scotland was a Country of some five and a half million people. The Capital was Edinburgh, located on the East Coast, with the largest City being Glasgow, located on the West Coast, some fifty miles away from Edinburgh. The majority of the Scottish population lived in a largely urban area known as the Central Belt, which covered Edinburgh, Glasgow, and the towns in between. Most Scots speak only English, with Gaelic (pronounced gahlik in Scotland, not gaylik) spoken only by a small percentage of the population, mainly in the Northwest.


The further North that one travelled, the more mountainous the terrain became, and the more isolated the Communities. Other major urban areas included Dundee, Aberdeen, and Inverness.


The majority of Scottish industry and manufacturing was also found in the Central Belt; in the 1980’s this industry had moved away from the more traditional forms of heavy industry such as coal mining, car manufacturing, and steel making, as mines and steel mills were closed down. Following a recession in the mid 1980’s, the 1990’s saw a rebirth, with many workers retraining in high Technology manufacturing as companies such as Motorola, IBM, and NEC came to Scotland, leading to the area being called “Silicon Glen”.


Some heavy industry did still flourish - Glasgow was home to a shipyard, and the North East, particularly the area around Aberdeen, became home to a thriving oil related industry. The North East also still supported a small fishing fleet.


Politically, Scotland returned 72 Members to the British Parliament in Westminster. The predominant Party in Scotland had long been the Labour Party, with the Scottish National Party running second, the Liberal Democrats a distant third, and the Conservatives an even more distant fourth. Of the four major parties, only the Nationalists favoured independence for Scotland; the other three all advocated maintaining the status quo within the Union. To most Scots Independence was something that they never expected to see, so therefore generally gave little thought to. The senior Politician responsible for Scotland and Scottish affairs was the Secretary of State for Scotland, who sat on the UK Cabinet.


Militarily, the Army presence in Scotland was relatively small; there were bases at Inverness and Edinburgh, and a recruit training depot and the Headquarters of the 2nd Infantry Division were located at separate installations outside Edinburgh. The Royal Air Force had two main flying bases, RAF Leuchars, in Fife, near Dundee, and RAF Lossiemouth on the North East Coast. Leuchars was home to Tornado Interceptors tasked with intercepting any unidentified aircraft approaching the UK from the North, whilst Lossiemouth was home to several squadrons of maritime and ground attack squadrons. Besides these two bases, there were a number of other smaller RAF installations throughout Scotland.

The main military presence in Scotland came from the Royal Navy. Their base at Rosyth, fifteen miles north of Edinburgh, rivalled Portsmouth and Devonport in size, whilst Faslane, on the West Coast, was the home of the Royal Navy’s nuclear deterrent submarines. The Navy also maintained several munitions bases throughout south and central Scotland; these included its stockpile of nuclear missiles.



The Nuclear Strikes


The Twilight War brought dramatic changes to Scotland, as it did the rest of the British Isles. In the early stages, several areas were subjected to intense conventional attack by Warsaw Pact Air Forces that caused heavy damage and serious loss of life. As NATO troops pushed across Poland however, people began to become cautiously optimistic that an end was in sight.


These hopes were cruelly squashed when the first tactical nuclear weapons were used in China and then, soon afterwards, Europe. Like many other places, the first use of these weapons caused panic, with people flooding out of the Cities en masse, seeking the perceived shelter of rural areas, causing some clashes between rural residents and displaced City dwellers, but these were the exception rather than the rule. Gradually, though, as the feared holocaust failed to materialise, the City residents began to drift back to their homes.


The uneasy calm was shattered, however, by the first wave of attacks on major centres. Grangemouth, on the river Forth, home of a huge oil refinery and storage facility was hit on the first day. Rosyth and Faslane were targeted on the second day; as well as utterly destroying the port and the surrounding area, the Rosyth blast caused significant damage to nearby Edinburgh. There was widespread panic as people flooded out of the Cities in any way that they could. This panic was fuelled by rumours that some rural communities were turning refugees away with force. In the areas devastated by the nuclear attacks fires raged out of control, dead bodies lay in the streets with no one to bury them, risking the spread of fatal diseases. The police were overwhelmed; the basic tents of law and order were fast breaking down.


The Secretary of State for Scotland, Dr John Clark MP, of the Labour Party, together with other Government and senior military commanders had relocated to a secure bunker near St Andrews. A skilled politician, Dr Clark was nonetheless out of his depth at the magnitude of the disaster. On the fourth day Aberdeen was the target, in a strike aimed at the oil facilities. Casualties, whilst severe, were not as heavy as they could have been, since much of the population had already fled to the countryside. The multiple warhead strike did manage its intended aim, however, wiping out the oil refining and storage facilities in the Aberdeen area. Mercifully, the strike on Aberdeen was the last attack on Scotland in the first nuclear exchange.


The police, aided by the military, now tried to restore order. No one had any idea how many had died in the initial attacks, or were now dying a slow, lingering death, either from radiation poisoning or disease. Troops wearing NBC equipment moved in to the devastated areas; bodies were taken to gathering places, where they were incinerated. Dr Clark initially refused to leave the safety of the bunker. Only after ten days had passed since the attack on Aberdeen would he emerge to witness first hand the devastation. Soon afterwards, with Winter setting in and tens of thousands of people displaced, the Government in London declared martial law.


One of the first actions after martial law was imposed was the rationing of food and fuel. This soon led to riots breaking out throughout the UK, and when these riots broke out in Glasgow, Dr Clark ordered Territorial Army soldiers to restore order using whatever means necessary. When a TA platoon commander asked if that meant lethal force, she was told that it did. The soldiers opened fire, killing twenty three rioters before they were overwhelmed by the rest of the crowd. Five of the Territorials, including the platoon commander were killed before they could withdraw. Law and order in Glasgow had completely collapsed. The strong had food, whilst the weak starved. Edinburgh, devastated by the effects of the strike on Rosyth, and Dundee soon followed. The military did not have the manpower to contend with every incident - for every riot they quelled, another five were breaking out somewhere else. The Government’s control was further eroded by the 04 December strike on the Cabinet’s wartime command post; which for a time deprived Clark of the guidance from London that he had come to rely on. Forced to make decisions for himself, he often made the wrong ones.



1998


January 1st 1998 was the dawned over a bleak Scotland. Aberdeen had been destroyed; the rest of the Cities were in various states of anarchy. The military, assisted by the police were doing their best to maintain order outside the Cities, but were fighting a losing battle. Dr Clark and the other surviving members of Scottish Government moved from their command bunker to RAF Leuchars.


Throughout Scotland, communities were doing their best to survive the Winter. The Highlands fared best; small, isolated communities that were used to fending for themselves; the towns and villages of the North took in the survivors from Aberdeen and went about their business as they had done for hundreds of years. In Dundee and Glasgow, abandoned by the Military, law and order had completely collapsed; these Cities were now ruled by various gangs that had become tribal in their outlook. Edinburgh had been badly damaged by the nuclear attack on Rosyth; the eastern suburbs of the City had escaped the worst of the damage, but here too gangs from various pre-war Housing estates or supporting one or other of Scotland’s football teams fought with their rivals to try and secure the ascendancy.


A steady trickle of refugees continued to pour out of the Cities, and in to the countryside, where their reception varied. In those areas that had military forces, the refugees were generally placed in camps; these tented cities lacked even the most minimal of hygiene facilities, so once more disease was rife; those that survived disease had to cope with sever food shortages; simply surviving the bomb was no guarantee of survival in post atomic Scotland. In some cases the refugees who ventured to other towns that lacked a garrison found themselves welcomed into people’s homes, initially at least. Others were simply turned away, sometimes at gunpoint. Even those who thought they had found a welcome and safety discovered that this was not always the case; some people welcomed refugees in to their home only to kill them for a handful of food, rape them, or force them into working in the fields.


There were, of course, isolated enclaves where the rule of law was maintained. The most significant of these were the towns of Perth and Stirling, in Central Scotland.


Far enough away from any of the nuclear targets to be spared the worst of the effects, and home to two Companies of Territorial Infantry, Perth stood out as an island in a sea of chaos. Following the nuclear attacks, an emergency committee had taken over the running of the Town. Amongst the members of this Committee were town councillors, local military commanders, and the town’s Member of Parliament, Alex Stewart, who also happened to be the leader of the Scottish National Party.


A respected Parliamentarian and a powerful orator, Stewart commanded huge respect in the Perth area. Under his leadership, camps were set up to accommodate the displaced people entering the area. The military, augmented by local volunteers, actively patrolled the local area, and most unlawful groups soon moved away, in search of easier pickings


Stirling had suffered some residual damage from the Grangemouth attack, but fortunately for the townspeople, the winds had been blowing away from Stirling that day, and so they had been spared the worst of the fallout - that fate had fallen to Edinburgh. Like Perth, Stirling also had effective civilian leadership, and was also serving as the current headquarters of the British Army in Scotland, which meant that well over a Battalion of troops, some of them regulars, was in the area.


These two towns worked together during the dark days of early 1998, issuing their own orders and working towards their own best interests. The Army gradually expanded its patrols, bringing more and more of the surrounding countryside under control. Refugees would then be assigned to the various farms, where in exchange for working, they were paid a fair wage, usually in food and goods rather than cash.


The eventual confrontation between the by now combined local Governments of Perth and Stirling and the remaining representatives of the British Government, namely Dr Clark and his emergency Cabinet at Leuchars, came in May 1998 when the most of the troops in Stirling were ordered to redeploy to the North East of England to assist in civil reconstruction there, leaving only a nominal force behind. Alex Stewart, realising that such a move could spell disaster for his enclave, met with his local military commanders, who told him that they did not intend to obey Clark’s orders.


Clark was furious, but lacked the resources to actually do anything about this perceived mutiny. He contacted the British Government, by now based in York, and requested assistance, but they repeated that there was nothing that they lacked the manpower to do anything.


As Summer moved in to autumn, a peace of sorts existed throughout most of Scotland. Most communities were too busy securing for winter and consolidating the territories that they had to try and fight with their neighbours. In October, however, the nightmare returned, as the Soviets launched a second wave of nuclear strikes against the British Isles. This time it was the turn of Glasgow and Dundee to be wiped off the map, with tens of thousands dying as both cities were devastated by a wave of atomic fire.


It was all too much for John Clark, who suffered a complete nervous breakdown. Soon afterwards, RAF Leuchars was overwhelmed by a mob of refugees from Dundee, and the RAF had no option but to evacuate. Most of the military personnel made it overland, to the safety of territory controlled by Alex Stewart’s Government, where they were readily accepted in to the ranks of what was becoming to be known by its own troops as the Scottish Army rather than the British Army. The Tornados flew out, headed north, for Lossiemouth. The fate of Dr John Clark MP was unknown.



The Republic of Scotland


On the 01st of January 1999, in Stirling, in the shadow of the William Wallace monument, Alex Stewart formally declared the formation of the Republic of Scotland, to be governed by a National Emergency Committee based in Perth. The forces under the command of the NEC would henceforth be known as the Scottish Army. In theory this Declaration of Stirling as it came to be known, applied to all of Scotland, and all of the armed forces based there. In practice, it applied only to those areas of Scotland under the NEC’s control. Geographically, this only covered a small area - parts of Perthshire, Stirlingshire, and Fife - but it did include over 10% of the Scottish population, and most of the military units within Scotland. The only significant military forces that it did not apply to were the airmen at RAF Lossiemouth (who basically ignored it) and the Army garrison at Fort George, Inverness.


Inverness at this point was effectively an independent City. Spared a nuclear attack, it had suffered some conventional bombing, aimed at the oil and port facilities at nearby Invergordon, but had not been seriously damaged. A garrison of Territorial troops had then saved it from the worst of the aftermath. In mid February, a meeting of the Inverness town council voted unanimously in favour of formally joining the Republic of Scotland.


Stewart’s plan was to draw up a boundary map, splitting the areas under the NEC’s control into districts; each district would then hold elections to send a representative to the NEC in Perth.


To be continued....

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Rainbow Six 06-21-2008, 05:51 PM OK, I think I've (re)posted everything that I have saved...I do recall that there was some discussion back and forth about various scenarios and what not, plus a few other orbats were posted. There was also a discussion about UK / French / Dutch relations but I don't have any of those saved I'm afraid...


The two big things on my to do list are


1. Finish the write up on Scotland.


2. Look at the various Air Forces present in the UK (Royal Air Force, United States Air Force and Royal Dutch Air Force in exile)


I've generally stayed clear of Northern Ireland, other than to make the assumption that all regular forces would have been pulled out and the Ulster Defence Regiment would have been fully mobilised and would form the only British military presence on the Island of Ireland.


A few scenario suggestions, which I hope might stimulate some discussion:


Crown Jewel Recovery Mission.

The Crown Jewels are kept in the Tower of London; an interesting quest type scenario for PC's would be if the Crown Jewels were evacuated from London prior to the nuclear exchanges and moved to a secret location, perhaps in a remote part of Wales or Scotland


Aurora

A top secret US spy plane is lost somewhere in East Anglia; a joint UK / US force must find it so it can be returned to the United States.


Colchester

Colchester in Essex is where the UK's military prison is located. Possible scenario is to have Colchester taken over by the prisoners, who then proceed to murder / rape / loot. Action must be taken to reclaim the town.


The French

The work in progress on Scotland will introduce the concept of Scotland joining the Franco Belgian Union and French troops being stationed in Scotland


The Dutch

I need to expand the whole idea of the Dutch Government / Royal Family in exile.

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FightingFlamingo 06-25-2008, 09:48 AM That Advent Crown OOB for NATO I did a while back is going to be seeing a signifigant revision in the future as Chico, Jason, Law, and Myself reconcile our vision of the war...


but it's probably a long way off...

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dude_uk 07-06-2008, 04:31 AM Thanks very much!


A treasure trove of information there guys. Highly informative and very useful.


The area that i am most interested in is the south-west particularly devon and cornwall. So any information on that area including the 'Duke of cornwall' would be great.


But thanks again rainbow your thesis on scotland and wales is great background for the state of the rest of the UK during in the war and the HSF essay.

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Rainbow Six 07-16-2008, 03:24 PM The area that i am most interested in is the south-west particularly devon and cornwall. So any information on that area including the 'Duke of cornwall' would be great.



The South West's not an area I'm overly familiar with Dude...I'm in the opposite end of the country...


I put a heavy Navy presence in Devonport / Plymouth but that was about it as far as organised forces go. I'd imagine the further that you head down towards Penzance the more independent the communities would become...bviously Konev's Wolves are based in that part of the World...there's probably scope to do something with Exeter as well...perhaps have another group of ex POW's holding Exeter but make them good guys...iirc the UK Survivor's Guide has the Group of Soviet Forces England based in Exeter. Could put the Duke of Cornwall in somewhere like Newquay?


Just some random thoughts...

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dude_uk 07-18-2008, 03:20 PM The South West's not an area I'm overly familiar with Dude...I'm in the opposite end of the country...


Yeah no worries, it was an open question. You've done sterling work with your work filling in alot of the blanks that the survivors guide lacks. Namely whilst portsmouth is quite heavily discussed the rest of the country is not.


I put a heavy Navy presence in Devonport / Plymouth but that was about it as far as organised forces go. I'd imagine the further that you head down towards Penzance the more independent the communities would become

Thats the way i've had it with a bit more influence by the duke of cornwall, made plymouth a bit more city under siege.


...obviously Konev's Wolves are based in that part of the World...there's probably scope to do something with Exeter as well...perhaps have another group of ex POW's holding Exeter but make them good guys...iirc the UK Survivor's Guide has the Group of Soviet Forces England based in Exeter. Could put the Duke of Cornwall in somewhere like Newquay?



Newquay was my original intention. Just trying to work out what materials and forces of the kind the Duke would employ. So working out what conditions could delay West (5th Mechanised) Divison as they attempt to retake Devon and Cornwall to give them a decent fight of it.

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Rainbow Six 07-19-2008, 11:23 AM Newquay was my original intention. Just trying to work out what materials and forces of the kind the Duke would employ. So working out what conditions could delay West (5th Mechanised) Divison as they attempt to retake Devon and Cornwall to give them a decent fight of it.


How about using some of the units that make up 43rd Brigade as the Duke's troops? Have one of the Battalions of the Wessex Regiment go unlawful? Or move the whole of 43rd Brigade to Devon / Cornwall and have it form the core of the Duke's armed forces? You've then got scope for a three way conflict between the Duke of Cornwall, HMG, and the Group of Soviet Forces England?

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Rainbow Six 08-02-2008, 04:56 PM Another UK Orbat for any who might be interested, this one not previously posted.


Note that this Orbat assumes that Scotland will join the Franco Belgian Union sometime in late 1999 / early 2000. Also, contrary to an earlier post in this thread, the Highlands are independent of the Scottish Government.


Scottish Army


Headquarters, Scottish Army

Location: Stirling

Strength: 100 men


1st Support Battalion

Location: Stirling, Perth

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