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Old 09-27-2009, 01:47 PM
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You know it always amused while in the 82nd Airborne Division that we had an Airborne Deployable Tank Battalion. I always thought it would be easier to take an airfield that was capable of C-5s and C-17s to land and off load M1s if you needed serious Anti-Tank capabilities. Yes, I know it expensive and move, as well as costly to supply this way, but I always thought when you need the best weapon, bring them to you, if you can. Otherwise pray that the Anti-Tank systems that were airdropped in with the Division work as stated in theory.

With that said, it does look like it would fit in nicely as an alternative, to give units tool to use. Making the vehicle that was practical purposes.
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:15 PM
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Chalk, as such a big Sheridan fan, I recommend that you pick up a copy of Osprey's title on the subject. There is some stuff in there also on the various vehicles intended to replace the Sheridan (none of which actually "made it").
I've thumbed through it a couple of times at the local bookstore and it looks pretty cool.

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/stor..._9781846033919

Amazon has it too. And no, I don't work for Osprey. Wish I did, sometimes!

I like your idea, BTW.

Anyone know if the U.S. has any other older AFVs sitting around (c. '97 or before) in decent enough conidition to return to active service (probably in the CONUS only, but who knows) either as-is or modified in like fashion? I'm thinking of M60s, M48s, Cadilac Gage armored cars.
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:42 PM
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I've got a bunch of stuff on Sheridans, I downloaded the user manual for them the other day

For a good idea of what can be done with older kit we only have to look to Israel and South Africa in the 70s and 80s. Israel isn't such a good indicator now as they're the 3rd biggest arms exporters, but prior to this they never threw anything away.

Vehicles such as the AMX-30, Leopard 1, M60 are all good vehicles for official upgrade. The European states had a plethora of little armoured cars, light tracked vehicles and so on such as the Panhards, the various Unimog-based armoured cars, and a lot of light tracked vehicles. The Stormer is a Scorpion upgraded for today's wars, and a good yardstick on how old vehicles could be upgraded.
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Love it, but don't forget the 105 how's HEAT round.

have you worked up a TOE/obo for the 4 Cavalry Divisions you have?

I've done something like this with the 639 M-47's we had. added all new kit and a M-68 main gun.
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The best place in the world right now to see how military equipment is being re-made and re-used is South America. But look fast -- the South Americans are becoming more affluent, and the weapons from Russia and China are becoming cheaper every day!

In South America, though, you can still see some old Shermans in use; the Columbians still use the M-8 Greyhound, with the cannon replaced by an M-2HB and a TOW launcher on top of the turret. The Chileans used to use Shermans with an Israeli 60mm HVMS autocannon instead of the 75mm main gun. One of the big defense concerns in Brazil makes a lot of money refurbishing and upgrading old military equipment. You can still see old farmers and woodsmen armed with old Mannlicher bolt-action rifles that are pre-World War One.
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The Chileans used to use Shermans with an Israeli 60mm HVMS autocannon instead of the 75mm main gun.
I thought they had used the Israeli M51 super sherman with the 105mm gun.
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I thought they had used the Israeli M51 super sherman with the 105mm gun.
That too.
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I thought they had used the Israeli M51 super sherman with the 105mm gun.
My Favorite Tank...... its just so cool seeing an old warhorse like that.
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