Akmr

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

Being a game, one of the more "annoying" issues is the limited ability to accurately reflect the effects of the various calibres, etc. Basically we're stuck with 1, 2, 3, or 4 D6 for most of the more common weapons with no provision for handloads, varying projectile weights, etc.

Of course it is a game so suspension of disbelief is a given.

Any variation in weapon firing, etc that's not already covered by the basics (recoil, rate of fire, base damage, etc) is fairly easily covered by a little roleplaying. If a weapon is described as having a large muzzle flash (AK-74U as an example) then there's certainly nothing wrong in playing it that way.

This is where the GM should be winging it.

[headquarters]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

This is where the GM should be winging it.

sure.

Why not just add a little sumpin`like say a + dice damage for special loads,increase range and penetration for those kinds of loads or reduce recoil and other stats for those loads.

As long as you go about it systematically its all good imho.

My players ( greedy,spoilt rotten and megalomaniac as they are ) always ask for mercury core vanadium steel tipped shotgun slugs,match grade long range rifle bullets etc etc .As long as they can get it I just give some extra stats to go with their wep stat sheet .


note to self :
Also - increase number / skill level of enemies

Someone want a rule section for this - I agree that thats a great idea .Until then I fly by the seat of my pants from wehat I know and what can be read online .

[Raellus]

The RL AK-103 has convinced me to drop the AKMR from my T2KU. If, IRL, the Russians decided to design and manufacture an improved version of the 7.62mm S AKMR in the mid '90s for domestic use and export, it stands to reason that the Soviet Union would opt to do the same thing, replacing old AKMs and even older AK-47s instead of going to the trouble of collecting and rechambering them. It would likely also start exporting them to other WTO nations that used the AKM and/or allowing liscenced production of the AK-103.

The AKMR is not a terrible idea, but I prefer the AK-103.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Perhaps the AKMR should be viewed as one of those oddities of the war, a depot level conversion of older weapons to maintain ammunition commonality with certain frontline units. However it is not an authorised model, just something that has come about because a particular unit has sufficient stocks of 5.45mm ammo but not enough AK74 types to go around.

So it should be viewed as one of those 'in theatre' conversions like the various armoured conversions of softskin vehicles seen in various wars rather than some rifle issued with widespread distribution in lieu of the standard AK74 types.

[HorseSoldier]

The AKMR doesn't make sense pre-war, as there's just too much replacement or major alteration required. Post-nuke, though I can buy the idea of guns being cobbled together from leftover parts at Soviet or other WP state armories. Pretty low frequncy sort of weapon, I'd think captured Chinese guns would be more common, even in the European theater.

[Tegyrius]

With the current price of surplus 7N6 on the American domestic market, I'll see occasional gun board threads on the feasibility of producing a 5.45x39mm bolt-action rifle (there is the SSG 82, but it's as rare as the proverbial hen's teeth and uses a proprietary optics mount). The best idea I've seen from gunsmiths who're consulted seems to be that the ideal starting platform would be a CZ 527 in 7.62x39mm, but the combination of re-barreling and reworking the bolt face would at least double the price of the rifle. Now, that's an off-the-cuff figure for limited-run custom work, but I have no reason to doubt these guys, particularly the AK smiths who already work with both calibers on a daily basis. Point is, it would not be just a barrel swap.

More data.

- C.

[Tegyrius]

Also, I can confirm that AK-47-type magazines will not seat properly in an AK-74-type receiver, nor vice versa. Steel '47 mags are too wide. Bakelite '74 mags are too long. So getting 5.45x39mm magazines into a receiver that started life as 7.62x39mm is going to require grinding on the mag "well" and rework of the magazine catch, and even after that you're going to see some lateral wobble that will make feeding rather unreliable.

YMMV.

- C.

[Spoe]

Originally Posted by Tegyrius

The best idea I've seen from gunsmiths who're consulted seems to be that the ideal starting platform would be a CZ 527 in 7.62x39mm, but the combination of re-barreling and reworking the bolt face would at least double the price of the rifle.

I'm not sure how feasible it would be to rework the bolt face. The rim diameter of 5.45x39 is roughly 1mm smaller than 7.62x32mm; you'd have to add material.

With the quality of 5.45 out there, I don't know that I'd want to sink that kind of money into the project. Not saying it's bad, but it isn't match ammo.

As for the AKMR, I'm not sure (knowing what we do now) that it would make sense. In most ways, the AK-74 is an AKM modified for 5.45x39mm and so the differences between them are pretty much the list of changes you'd need to make. The main exceptions are the front sight block on the AK-74 and the flash hider/brake vs. compensator, neither of are technically required for the caliber change.