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Old 11-10-2009, 09:36 PM
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yes and no... the non-Soviet WP nations were equipt with less capable equipment that would be in a Soviet division of the same mobilization category. Additionally, there were vehicles used in Hungary, Romania, Czechoslovakia, and Poland which were of local design and manufacture (FUG's & OT-65,64's).
Generally, the non-Soviet Armies in the WP followed the same pattern of organization, even if mix was different.

It just occurred to me that the non-Soviet WP generally had more towed artillery, and that mix increased as you went south in the WP towards Bulgaria.
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:38 PM
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And what about the TOEs on Orbat.com?

http://www.orbat.com/site/history/hi...arsawpact.html

At the bottom of the page there are "Warsaw Pact Forces Generic Table of Organization and Equipment".
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Orders of Battle:

Warsaw Pact, 1 OCT 1996:

Western TVD (Theater of Military Operations):
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...ZDc2OTY3&hl=en

Northwestern TVD:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...MTNhNDlm&hl=en

Southwestern TVD:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...OWMzZmI1&hl=en

Southern TVD:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...NTBkOTgy&hl=en

Far Eastern TVD:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...Y2E5YWMx&hl=en

RGVK (Reserve of the High Command):
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...MWJjYjhl&hl=en

and a bonus:

Chinese People's Liberation Army, 1 OCT 96, version 1.5:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...ZTU4YzFk&hl=en (edit: the newer version was on my thumb drive...)

This will all get onto my website http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeedox4/ sometime in the next week or 2...
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Orders of Battle:

Chinese People's Liberation Army, 1 OCT 96, version 1:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...NGI5MGYw&hl=en (a newer version is on the hard drive at home...)
This is excellent. I have a month-long break from school coming up after Christmas, and I have been giving serious thought to getting back into The Storm in Germany and/or the Sino-Soviet War. If you don't mind, I may simply appropriate your OB as of 01 OCT for the PLA and guide towards it during 1996.

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Old 12-07-2009, 05:23 PM
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This is excellent. I have a month-long break from school coming up after Christmas, and I have been giving serious thought to getting back into The Storm in Germany and/or the Sino-Soviet War. If you don't mind, I may simply appropriate your OB as of 01 OCT for the PLA and guide towards it during 1996.

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I altered the RL historical Group Army designations to match the ones in your earlier work, as best as I could. Since the gap is so huge, I fudged it, and assumed (and we all know what assuming makes...) that the net result of the 1996 campaign season on the Chinese army was zero - that the 80-some new divisions feared by the Soviet politburu prior to Tchaikovskiy were either not raised, raised and destroyed during the year, disbanded to bring existing units back up to strength, or simply took the unit numbers of units that had been wiped out. On the equipment, heavy mortars and truck and trailer-mounted MRLs have become dominant, easier to manufacture than traditional tube artillery. Higher-level reserve artillery units are equipped with Western-supplied Assault Breaker systems - essentially HIMARS rocket systems firing ATACMS with Skeet submunitions.

The reinforcements listed in the newer version of the orbat are in keeping in line with your supposition that 80 divisions could be raised in 5 months. 75% of those units are committed to the Northern War Zone, the rest split between the Strategic Reserve (50%), the far west (25%) and the Vietnamese border (25%). They are listed going forward so that we can wargame the Far Eastern campaign, initially for the Soviet Army Guide but also for a Northeast Asia Sourcebook, which will hopefully eventually cover Hanoi-Anchorage.
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...the net result of the 1996 campaign season on the Chinese army was zero - that the 80-some new divisions feared by the Soviet politburu prior to Tchaikovskiy were either not raised, raised and destroyed during the year, disbanded to bring existing units back up to strength, or simply took the unit numbers of units that had been wiped out.
Seems like a logical approach.
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Chico, you are simply A M A Z I N G !
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