WikiLeaks Kabul War Diary

[jester]

The question is, how many folks on the ground in theater are going to be in harms way because of this?

I have seen the clips of the idiot from Der Spiegel, and he seems a bit to smug. For that alone I would love to bash his face in.

As for the newspappers who are pushing it, tend to focus on the sensational and have a proven bias. So much for objective reporting.

[Tegyrius]

Originally Posted by jester

As for the newspappers who are pushing it, tend to focus on the sensational and have a proven bias. So much for objective reporting.

What is this "objective reporting" of which you speak? Is it like your rabbit that bounces about the yards on Easter, laying eggs and bringing chocolates?

- C.

[Mohoender]

There is no "objective reporting". Reporters are only interested in getting the "Big News" and the Pulitzer or something similar.

Nevertheless, I remained convinced that part of it is true. War is never clean but it's not a reason not to grant respect to soldiers fighting. I don't know war, don't want to know it and I'm equally sure that most troops are simply fighting.

As I said to an American friend in 2003 while visiting US: put two stickers on your cars: "Bring Them Home" and "Support Our Troops". At the time, these stickers were opposed, I never understood why as both make sence. It seemed that the British are better at understand it.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Mohoender

As I said to an American friend in 2003 while visiting US: put two stickers on your cars: "Bring Them Home" and "Support Our Troops". At the time, these stickers were opposed, I never understood why as both make sence. It seemed that the British are better at understand it.

It is quite possible to support the troops and understand and feel for the sacrifice they are making, yet oppose the war in which they are fighting. It's how I feel about the Iraq invasion. Soldiers may fight the wars, but they don't start them. That's done by politicians, and their reasons for starting them may be less than sterling or moral. That's how I feel about the Iraq War.

[TiggerCCW UK]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

It is quite possible to support the troops and understand and feel for the sacrifice they are making, yet oppose the war in which they are fighting. It's how I feel about the Iraq invasion. Soldiers may fight the wars, but they don't start them. That's done by politicians, and their reasons for starting them may be less than sterling or moral. That's how I feel about the Iraq War.

The late, great Bill Hicks once said 'I'm in the unusal position of being for the troops, but against the war', in reference to the first Gulf War iirc. Sums up a ot of peoples feelings here in the UK anyway, especially regarding the current Iraq situation.

[Mohoender]

Paul,we agree and I'm not surprised about it. However, it didn't seemed to be possible back in 2003. You are right soldiers never start wars but people tend to support them.

I'll never forget what a french Poilu said in 1989. The journalist, in front of him, had said that WW1 had proved how brave they all were. The man replied the following : "WW1 proved only one thing, that you had as many fools on both side of the border".

My Grand Father held a similar position about war. The only time my Grand Pa screamed at me was when I foolishly suggested that some good could come out of War. His answer was simple: "The only thing that comes out of war is destruction, nothing is ever built out of war". Please, no need to discuss it. I would not take it badly but God himself could not challenge that.

Strangely, that didn't make me a pacifist.

[Dog 6]

The biggest problem with the world is overpopulation. I support any and all military actions that curtail it.