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[Raellus]

Wait, aren't you the same guy that gets incensed when anyone mentions anything negative about anything regarding or related to U.S. army "officers"? I don't recall anyone ever mentioned you personally, but you seem to take great offense anyway. Now you're using the cop out of saying that you were slagging the education "system" and not me personally so I shouldn't be upset. I didn't call you an absentee parent did I? You seem to be taking my comments to say that. That's putting words in my mouth. Why are you the only one who can take pride in his profession and get upset when people throw stones? Must be because I don't like the T2013 timeline.

That's called hypocricy.

You have a nice night.

[Eddie]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Wait, aren't you the same guy that gets incensed when anyone mentions anything negative about anything regarding or related to U.S. army "officers"? I don't recall anyone ever mentioned you personally, but you seem to take great offense anyway. Now you're using the cop out of saying that you were slagging the education "system" and not me personally so I shouldn't be upset. I didn't call you an absentee parent did I? Must be because I don't like the T2013 timeline.

What's the average reading grade level of an American, Rae? How do we rank internationally? How do we rank on standardized tests?

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/...0221227104776/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120400730.html

Those are just two quick searches.

I'm not trying to make cheap shots. I'm not trying to make this personal between you and me. If you want to, we can go to PM and waste our time.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by Eddie

What's the average reading grade level of an American, Rae? How do we rank internationally? How do we rank on standardized tests?

The system is broken. I can't deny that. Let's slash some more of its funding and see if that helps. All I can do is keep busting my ass to try to help my students learn something while they're in my classroom. If I work hard enough, maybe our nation's standardized test score will go up a little and my pay won't be cut again this year. I should be thankful I haven't been permanently RIF'ed yet. Thanks for the morale boost, Ed.

[natehale1971]

Originally Posted by Raellus

The system is broken. I can't deny that. Let's slash some more of its funding and see if that helps. All I can do is keep busting my ass to try to help my students learn something while they're in my classroom. If I work hard enough, maybe our nation's standardized test score will go up a little and my pay won't be cut again this year. I should be thankful I haven't been permanently RIF'ed yet. Thanks for the morale boost, Ed.

And TEACHER'S pay shouldn't be cut. It's the pay of the administrators and Union Bosses who are taking all the funding AWAY from class rooms... all the while claiming to be getting more funding for those classrooms.

They cut the pay or fire the teachers doing the jobs they are suppose to do, while they are living the fat life.

Like you said.. the system is broken. And that's what Eddie had said. Not that individual teachers are the problem. It's the teachers unions and Education Departments MISMANAGEMENT that is the problem.

Look at my post up a few, about how the USSR SHOULD have been one of the most prosperous countries in history thanks to the massive amounts of resources at their fingertips. But proper management of resources can make even someone who is skint live like a king within their means, but improper management can turn a king into a pauper.

[Raellus]

A lot of the criticisms posted here are valid. But it's hard to hear. I take pride in my work and it's tough to detach myself as an individual from the institution of which I am a part. It's a really hard job. Have you ever tried to motivate, inspire, and educate 150 15-18 year-olds on a daily basis? It's rough sometimes. It can feel like a thankless job when I see my paycheck shrink on an annual basis while the public pins most of American society's on my employer. If only they knew what it was like...

[natehale1971]

Originally Posted by Raellus

A lot of the criticisms posted here are valid. But it's hard to hear. I take pride in my work and it's tough to detach myself as an individual from the institution of which I am a part. It's a really hard job. Have you ever tried to motivate, inspire, and educate 150 15-18 year-olds on a daily basis? It's rough sometimes. It can feel like a thankless job when I see my paycheck shrink on an annual basis while the public pins most of American society's on my employer. If only they knew what it was like...

Yes... I have. I REALLY wanted to be a history and art teacher. I have helped motivate and inspire kids to actually look things up when i start talking about the founding of this Republic. yes it does feel like a thankless job. but you also hold the future in your hands when you are teaching those children. Some teachers take that HONOR and trust so seriously as you do, but there are alot of teachers who don't. Who are simply bad teachers, who should have NEVER been given teaching certification. You know that better than we do, because you've had to work with some of them.

Hell, most of us only have knowledge of this from either being parents or having sat in a classroom. And most of us on this forum haven't been in a classroom in 20+ years. I've been going to college and discovered that most of the recent graduates are so.... behind it's not even funny.

They don't know HALF of what we did when we graduated. And it's only been 20 years since i graduated. they aren't even getting civics lessons in class, just indoctrination into 'nanny state' is good and Republicans/Conservatives are all racists who want you to die (yes i can say this because my youngest sister had to put up with a teacher trying to push that on her when she was in school).

We're not attacking YOU or your profession... we're attacking those who have ABUSED their positions, and made your job such the thankless and hard job it's become.

[Fusilier]

Originally Posted by Raellus

It's a really hard job. Have you ever tried to motivate, inspire, and educate 150 15-18 year-olds on a daily basis? It's rough sometimes.

Sure is. Sometimes more so than when I was in the infantry.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by natehale1971

And TEACHER'S pay shouldn't be cut. It's the pay of the administrators and Union Bosses who are taking all the funding AWAY from class rooms... all the while claiming to be getting more funding for those classrooms.

Teachers should be be highly-paid -- at least four to five times what they are paid now, if not more. Their job is hard, our educational system sucks, and we'd attract more and better teachers if they were paid in accordance to the difficulties of their job. And in accordance to the importance of their job.