I swear, my alt timeline will have something about Florida

[antimedic]

Heck yea! We've decided that the Castillo de San Marcos is going to be our hold out location during the Zombie Apocolypse. And dont forget, the Hawkeyes were and are still being built by Grumman in St. Augustine. And up until they were retired, Tomcats were being rebuilt, and Intruders were being converted to KA6D tankers. The State Guard HQ is also here. Several years ago I was able to see the Communications setup during a pre-fire tour, it was very impressive.

And most of the state has a gun store every 2 blocks or so. Just saying......

[headquarters]

I have a couple of cents :
Alas,Babylon : excellent book. set in Florida. Lots of good ambience and ideas for a T2k game.

1 Everybody knows Florida is warm and lush. When fuel and electricity stop being available further north a migration of people looking to get to somewhere warm and fertile will invade Florida.

2 Florida has a pretty high/normal gun pr citizen ratio. ( high or normal depending on your take on that issue)

I guess Florida will end up going through nasty times in the T2k setting - carnage.

[Tegyrius]

Originally Posted by antimedic

And most of the state has a gun store every 2 blocks or so. Just saying......

Only one in the Keys, though, as far as I've been able to determine.

When I was doing 2013 demos, my standard plot involved U.S. Marine survivors in Cote d'Ivoire procuring transport back to the World for themselves and the embassy staffers they were escorting. I always wanted to do a sequel adventure for that, starting with the team's freighter going down in a tropical storm. The PCs would wash ashore (minus most of their gear) in the middle of a low-intensity struggle between the Conch Republic and a bunch of gangstas who'd escaped the nuclear strike on Miami. I had vague plans of making it the seed adventure for PCs arriving back in (nominally) CONUS and embarking on their homeward journeys. Alas, I can't actually write canned adventures to save my life... but I always liked the idea of the tongue-in-cheek Conch Republic secession movement turning into a de facto micro-nation once the lower Keys were completely cut off from any state or federal help.

- C.

[mikeo80]

I have a few nits to pick

1) U.S.S. Saratoga is/was a CVA, not a CVN. Oil based engineering, not a nuclear powered vessel.

2) Florida, esp in Alas Babylon and TMP gets CREAMED. So many AFB stations for the incoming Russian warheads to vaporize, the major cities of Miami, Orlando, etc. go poof!

As in Alas Babylon, once out in the boondocks, there would be at least a few survivors. As related above, there are natural resources that could sustain a low level population. As in Alas Babylon, the majority of snowbirds would be caught in the blast, radiation, firestorms. Not too many survivors there.

Just my two cents

Mike

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Come to think of it, Key West has oodles of feral chickens running about. That is meat on the hoof or if your more enterprising, capture some of them and raise them for their eggs and meat.

Chuck

I have said it here before, but I will say it again because it is so weird. Urban Guerrillas has a group called the Dunedin Rangers, a bunch of ragtag, well armed individuals in the Dunedin area. I was part of a group of reenactors that all lived in and around Dunedin, and we were part of a military museum called NASLEMM that is commonly called the "two of every gun museum" operated by long time gun collector Bill Douglas. It is very weird how similar we are to the story in the game.

[helbent4]

Originally Posted by bigehauser

I have said it here before, but I will say it again because it is so weird. Urban Guerrillas has a group called the Dunedin Rangers, a bunch of ragtag, well armed individuals in the Dunedin area. I was part of a group of reenactors that all lived in and around Dunedin, and we were part of a military museum called NASLEMM that is commonly called the "two of every gun museum" operated by long time gun collector Bill Douglas. It is very weird how similar we are to the story in the game.

Eric,

Could be a coincidence, most likely. Maybe the author was from Florida and incorporated some local characteristics and groups?

Tony

[simonmark6]

I would have thought that the writer couldn't resist the temptation of dropping in an easter egg, Dunedin Rangers is just to close to Dunedain Rangers to resist.

[sglancy12]

Originally Posted by helbent4

Eric,

Could be a coincidence, most likely. Maybe the author was from Florida and incorporated some local characteristics and groups?

Tony

Tom Mulkey wasn't just a Floridian and Vietnam Vet, he living in St. Petersburg at the time he was writing for GDW. I suspect he might have been aware of the existence of any groups of re-enactors in the area and could very well have included them as a tip-of-the-hat to a real group. GDW often discouraged referencing real life people or groups for legal reasons, but I doubt if the editors at GDW (up in Normal IL) would have gotten that particular in-joke.

I myself always felt that the Broken Joes of the Bay Pines VA Hospital in Urban Guerilla were inspired by his own struggles with PTSD.

I had the pleasure of playing Twilight 2000 with him a couple of times and quizzed him pretty relentlessly about many of his writing projects for GDW, particularly about stuff that may have ended up on the cutting room floor.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing