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Old 01-01-2011, 11:51 AM
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The whole thing with the Division XLVIIXIVLIIIMLIII () is that it seems to take a great leap back from what we know works.

I was around when we made the leap from 3 companies up to 4 smaller companies...we found that the additional of the 4 company gave us a lot better tactical flexibility over the "old" 3 company battalion....so a dozen years later, we get the "4 companies is inefficient"? The tank platoon used to be 5 tanks, we found that 4 tanks was the most efficient balance between staying power and flexibility...now its 3 tanks?!?!?!

I think some dipshit in the Pentagon may have had an accident with Windows!
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:40 PM
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The whole thing with the Division XLVIIXIVLIIIMLIII () is that it seems to take a great leap back from what we know works.

I was around when we made the leap from 3 companies up to 4 smaller companies...we found that the additional of the 4 company gave us a lot better tactical flexibility over the "old" 3 company battalion....so a dozen years later, we get the "4 companies is inefficient"? The tank platoon used to be 5 tanks, we found that 4 tanks was the most efficient balance between staying power and flexibility...now its 3 tanks?!?!?!

I think some dipshit in the Pentagon may have had an accident with Windows!
Tank platoon are down to three...Wow... Yeah if you look at the Soviet Divisions and Regiments were 3:1 ratios for Tanks and Mechanized. Then again they have ran anywhere from 3 to 5 tank to platoon depending what type of tank unit the Company was assigned too. So it not only the Generals in the Pentagon who can't get their shit together... Also Germany had debated these things and mix of Brigades too over the year too.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:32 PM
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ah generals in general don't know what they're doing. thats why they aren't specialists or sergeants. then again is the SPC4's and SGT's ran the army the ACU fiasco would have never happened, we'd have jumpable rucks, and the army would actually be run like an organisation or professional soldiers.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:48 PM
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ah generals in general don't know what they're doing. thats why they aren't specialists or sergeants. then again is the SPC4's and SGT's ran the army the ACU fiasco would have never happened, we'd have jumpable rucks, and the army would actually be run like an organisation or professional soldiers.
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ah generals in general don't know what they're doing. thats why they aren't specialists or sergeants. then again is the SPC4's and SGT's ran the army the ACU fiasco would have never happened, we'd have jumpable rucks, and the army would actually be run like an organisation or professional soldiers.
You know, speaking as a former SSG, that whole comment makes my head ache. I'm not a fan of dumbass officers, of which their is plenty, but NCO's can fuck up a unit faster than any officer- and its more common. The procurement process is ate up from the ground up, but there was valid, reasonable, reasons for the decisions they made, right or wrong. The jobs that NCO's and Officers have is totally different, and they have totally different requirements for training. A private does what is needed now, his NCO plans what needs to be done in the next few days, its up to the officer to plan further out. Most officers are capable, smart, and hard working. Give them respect: they worked for it. And what ever you do, don't batch them in front of your 1SG or SGM, he'll eat you alive.

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You know, speaking as a former SSG, that whole comment makes my head ache. I'm not a fan of dumbass officers, of which their is plenty, but NCO's can fuck up a unit faster than any officer- and its more common. The procurement process is ate up from the ground up, but there was valid, reasonable, reasons for the decisions they made, right or wrong. The jobs that NCO's and Officers have is totally different, and they have totally different requirements for training. A private does what is needed now, his NCO plans what needs to be done in the next few days, its up to the officer to plan further out. Most officers are capable, smart, and hard working. Give them respect: they worked for it. And what ever you do, don't batch them in front of your 1SG or SGM, he'll eat you alive.

Gah, defending officers, what a strange world.
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