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Old 08-27-2011, 11:44 PM
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I agree but its less fun. We don't have intelligence agencies as perverted as the CIA or the KGB. Even UK has James Bond, could you this time let us have some fun.
Go and have a look at what your French intelligence compatriots get up to Mo. Talking about the cat calling the kettle black! Jeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 08-28-2011, 01:06 AM
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Targan you are right. I was looking at it from a military view not a country view. I did not think the Rainbow warrior was a New Zealand ship. From my research she was registered out oh the Netherlands, and that she was just making a port call in New Zealand and no New Zealanders were hurt in the bombing that it was confined to the ship!, but a man returned to the ship after the bombing and tried to board and was killed in the ship while it was going down. He was of Portuguese of origin.....If my facts are wrong please inform me..... I like to speak the truth.....
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Old 08-28-2011, 06:31 AM
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RN7, I was not being serious.
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Old 08-28-2011, 07:11 AM
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Targan you are right. I was looking at it from a military view not a country view. I did not think the Rainbow warrior was a New Zealand ship. From my research she was registered out oh the Netherlands, and that she was just making a port call in New Zealand and no New Zealanders were hurt in the bombing that it was confined to the ship!, but a man returned to the ship after the bombing and tried to board and was killed in the ship while it was going down. He was of Portuguese of origin.....If my facts are wrong please inform me..... I like to speak the truth.....
You are absolutely correct on those facts Law. But it was the bombing of a civilian ship in a New Zealand port. I think part of the reason New Zealanders get so upset about the Rainbow Warrior bombing is that per capita of population, New Zealand had more casualties defending France in WWI than any other country on the planet. New Zealand regards France as a friendly nation. We Kiwis get a bit pissed off when a friendly nation engages in a terrorist act on New Zealand soil.

Just to rub it in the French put those responsible for the bombing on a beach in French Polynesia for a couple of years as "punishment" then set them free.
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You are absolutely correct on those facts Law. But it was the bombing of a civilian ship in a New Zealand port. I think part of the reason New Zealanders get so upset about the Rainbow Warrior bombing is that per capita of population, New Zealand had more casualties defending France in WWI than any other country on the planet. New Zealand regards France as a friendly nation. We Kiwis get a bit pissed off when a friendly nation engages in a terrorist act on New Zealand soil.

Just to rub it in the French put those responsible for the bombing on a beach in French Polynesia for a couple of years as "punishment" then set them free.
And only the two that was caught redhanded, with the female half even having her husband stay with her. Some 'prison' that was- the rest got off Scott free, even though it was obvious they was involved. No knock on the Aussies - they couldn't hold the three they caught long enough for the results of the forensics to come back.
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Yes, us Australians have these little things called "law" and "due process" which get in the way sometimes. Mind you, I prefer a few terrorists and spies slipping away than have an entire prison network set up to hold people simply suspected of doing something naughty. If the evidence is there to hold them though, I'm all for twenty foot high electrified razor wire and machinegun towers.
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I read somewhere once that a just society would rather let ten guilty men go free rather than punish one innocent man and a tyranny would rather let ten innocent men get punished rather than let a guilty one go free. I suppose all very noble until it gets personal...
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I read somewhere once that a just society would rather let ten guilty men go free rather than punish one innocent man and a tyranny would rather let ten innocent men get punished rather than let a guilty one go free. I suppose all very noble until it gets personal...
A very unwise saying. Recent events have proved that tiranny would tend to punish ten innocent men while letting the guilty go free. Why waste so many talented people when you can use their natural brutality to great effects?
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