Gun Trucks

[Schone23666]

Originally Posted by natehale1971

Web... there is also a few other sources that you might be able to get retired weapons systems. Tanks, helicopters and the like.. American Legion posts, Veterans of Foreign Wars Chapters, DIsabled American Veterans Chapters and other faternal groups of Veterans. It just hit me that there is a UH-1 Heuy Gunship, a towed howitzer and a Sherman tank sitting in front of the local VFW Chapter. There is a towed heavy AA machinegun infront of the masons Lodge a few blocks away. There are also some field cannons in the park as well.

Some communities might have these kinds of weapon systems that might be able to be refurbished and used.

I think Dragooonly made a post about that some time ago....the amount of time and materials needed for refurbishment would depend on factors like how far it's been de-militarized, how long it's been sitting out exposed to the weather or if it's been sitting gathering dust in a museum, etc. Still raises some interesting possibilities, and with at least some not-quite-so-old vehicles and aircraft on display inside certain museums, you wonder if certain things were left intact on the inside just in case it needed to be rolled out again for any particular dire circumstance...

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Schone23666

I think Dragooonly made a post about that some time ago....the amount of time and materials needed for refurbishment would depend on factors like how far it's been de-militarized, how long it's been sitting out exposed to the weather or if it's been sitting gathering dust in a museum, etc. Still raises some interesting possibilities, and with at least some not-quite-so-old vehicles and aircraft on display inside certain museums, you wonder if certain things were left intact on the inside just in case it needed to be rolled out again for any particular dire circumstance...

The Mississippi National Guard Armory just down the road from my home has an M-60A3 out front as a static display. Since I play darts with the armory's 1st Sergeant, I've had a chance to look over the ole beast. Here is what its missing:

Gunner day, night and auxiliary sights; fire control computer; laser rangefinder; TC day and night sights; engine and trannie; breechblock is welded in place; barrel has three holes drilled through the tube and rebar welded in place, physically blocking the barrel.

Needless to say, it will take quite a bit of work to restore this tank to fighting condition!

[Raellus]

I agree that to properly rig up a true gun truck, one is going to need access to lots of military hardware (i.e. surplus machineguns). This would be only possible in areas where large military units are operating.

The only exception would be one of those places in the U.S.A. where folks hold those big, multi-day shoot-offs with lots of full auto MGs and stuff and there wouldn't likely be such get togethers during WWIII.

SimonMark's improvised gun truck weaponry would also be an exception.

As we've discussed in other threads, getting a military static display vehicle running would require a lot of resources that most civilians just don't have access to, especially after the country has been nuked a couple dozen times. Dragoon500ly's example is a really good one.

[natehale1971]

For some... just the appearence of having a functining tank works. If you have what looks like a tank and can make it move around, raiders would see that and think twice about attacking that community.

[Webstral]

The Shogun in Nevada has some gun trucks, but these are armed with weapons that used to belong to the 99th Security Group based at Nellis AFV and 46th Infantry Division, the latter of which conducted a road march across northern Nevada en route to Sixth US Army in California in 1998. A couple of machine guns on trucks in the Gunryo (the Shogun’s light motorized army) used to belong to the New America cell in Boise, ID and were “liberated” during a raid in 2000.

The Gunryo has no heavy gun trucks like many of the ones pictured earlier in the thread. Fuel is a precious commodity in the shogunate [1]. The vehicles of the Gunryo have to be light. Large, heavily-armored trucks are out of the question. For this reason, almost all of the gun trucks are modified pickups with a pintle mount for a machine gun and welded-on armor for the truck body and bed. Mortar carriers are unarmored, as they are expected to provide fire support from beyond small arms range.

Webstral

1 Like so many organizations throughout the US, the Gunryo uses a blend of partially refined crude oil from surviving wells in areas under its control and biodiesel. A number of small wells operated in central Nevada at the time of the TDM. The Shogun went to great lengths to find survivors who could keep the wells producing and who could do some refining and processing of the crude. The amount produced is miniscule compared to the pre-Exchange demands of Nevada, but then the Shogun’s needs are miniscule compared to the pre-Exchange demands of Nevada. Diesel fuel from the Nevada wells is mixed with biodiesel from alfalfa grown wherever crops can be grown in the shogunate.

[Ronin]

[Ronin]

Was just thinking of some improvised tanks that were used in WWII.
The NI Tank (Russian: Танк НИ Tank NI, abbr. На Испуг, Na Ispug, literally ‘Bluff into retreat’, pronounced /ˈniː/), also called the Odessa tank or Terror Tank, was an improvised Soviet armoured fighting vehicle, based on an STZ-5 agricultural tractor, manufactured in Odessa during the early days of the German-Soviet War. More than anything this tank was intended to frighten and demoralize enemy positions that believed it to be an actual heavy armored vehicle.


NI-1 Diagram: 1 — armored hull, 2 — side armor, 3 — engine compartment, 4 — turret, 5 — fenders, 6 — track armor, 7 — machine gun armor, 8 — DShK machine gun, 9 — hook, 10 — toolbox, 11 — exhaust pipe, 12 — chassis beams, 13 — chassis front, 14 — tow hitch, 15 — idler, 16 — support roller, 17 — driving wheel, 18 — roller, 19 — DT machine gun

The Bob Semple tank was a tank designed by New Zealand Minister of Works Bob Semple during World War II. Originating out of the need to build military hardware from available materials, the tank was built from corrugated iron on a tractor base. Designed and built without formal plans or blueprints, it had numerous design flaws and practical difficulties, and was never put into mass production or used in combat. Despite this, it has become something of an icon of the New Zealand 'do it yourself' mentality.


The KhTZ-16 (Russian: ХТЗ-16) (after the Kharkov Tractor Factory; Russian: Kharkovskiy Traktorniy Zavod) was a Soviet improvised armoured vehicle of the Second World War, built on the chassis of an STZ-3 tractor[1]. The vehicles were built in Kharkiv until the factory was evacuated to the east, at which time production moved to Stalingrad. No less than 809 vehicles were planned, but no more than about 60 were actually built. Some vehicles were used in the fighting around Kharkov in October 1941, but were quickly lost.
The vehicle was operated by a crew of two, and armed with a 45mm anti-tank gun and a 7.62mm DT or Degtyarev light machine gun mounted in a fixed superstructure

[Ronin]

And one last one, cause I cant resist.

WWII Bedford truck with a WWI COW 37mm gun. (Automatic cannon fed from a 5 round clip)

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Was just thinking of some improvised tanks that were used in WWII.

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The Bob Semple tank was a tank designed by New Zealand Minister of Works Bob Semple during World War II. Originating out of the need to build military hardware from available materials, the tank was built from corrugated iron on a tractor base. Designed and built without formal plans or blueprints, it had numerous design flaws and practical difficulties, and was never put into mass production or used in combat. Despite this, it has become something of an icon of the New Zealand 'do it yourself' mentality.

The Right Honourable Robert 'Bob' Semple was my father's father's father (my paternal great grandfather (he's where I got my middle name from)). He was originally a miner from Ballarat in Australia, at which time he was also a fairly well-known bare knuckle prize fighter. That's why his nickname in the New Zealand Labour Party was "Fightin' Bob Semple". He was personally involved in the design and construction of the Bob Semple Tank, as in he drove down to the rail works where he used to work before becoming a cabinet minister, told the workers there what he had in mind and personally oversaw the project.

Great grandad was a tall, imposing man, scary-looking in all the old photos on my dad's wall including one in which he stands in a pugilist's pose, stripped to the waist and with a big, handlebar moustache, photographed right before a fight. It's probably pretty obvious that I'm very proud that my paternal ancestor designed and built his own tank, even if it was a completely crap tank.