OMG I CANNOT believe Obama did this

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

How much of this movie is not going to be 100% pure and unadulterated propaganda...?

I'm extremely doubtful the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth will have much involvement in this. Remember, it's an election year. What's the odds it'll be rushed through production and air just before voting day...?

hhhmmm. American cinema has a long tradition of setting movies in our wars, and I do not see why the war on terror should be an exception. I cannot understand how any citizen of a law abiding country would refuse to celebrate the killing of the man that engineered and ordered the attacks on 9/11.

As for getting the truth all I can say is we can't have it both ways. Either you get the whole truth and give away confidential information on the identities of service members and operational procedures, or you give it the Hollywood treatment and try to make a movie that is engaging and entertaining.

Blaming the commander-in-chief seems a little disingenuous before the film is even made, especially considering the recent release of a movie with active-duty members of the Navy Seals who were photographed at the premier of Act of Duty with their dates.

[Legbreaker]

I'm probably just being cynical. It's the timing of it I'm questioning most of all - Bin Laden's bones have barely even hit the ocean floor and operations are still going on in the area! Even here the 1st anniversary was a big deal on the news and soon after this movie is announced just six months before the US election?

Coincidence?

Maybe....

[simonmark6]

Bah! You're just pissed because the director offed that boy off of Neighbours in the first five minutes of "Hurt Locker". I will not have the integrity of the director of "Point Break" impinged.

Anyone who casts Reeves and Swayze in the same film is beyond our understanding and we should not dare to judge them.

[Legbreaker]

Neighbours!? Complete drivel! Never watch it and risk my brain being melted.
It's his other work that's gained my approval.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

Neighbours!? Complete drivel! Never watch it and risk my brain being melted.
It's his other work that's gained my approval.

Neighbours is some horribly lowly crap.

[95th Rifleman]

Originally Posted by Targan

Neighbours is some horribly lowly crap.

Last time I watched neighbours, Kylie Minogue was still married to jason Donovan

[Targan]

Originally Posted by 95th Rifleman

Last time I watched neighbours, Kylie Minogue was still married to jason Donovan

Ah, "the Singing Budgie". Ok, so some good has come out of Neighbours.

[headquarters]

Originally Posted by Targan

Neighbours is some horribly lowly crap.

Its one of the most true documentaries I have ever seen about Aussie life and society - except Crocodile Dundee and Romper Stomper of course. Also good documentaries.

[Legbreaker]

Romper Stomper.
Yep, 99% of us Australians are just like that.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Originally Posted by Jason

...I cannot understand how any citizen of a law abiding country would refuse to celebrate the killing of the man that engineered and ordered the attacks on 9/11...

Because I'm a secular humanist and I don't agree with celebrating the killing of anyone?

[95th Rifleman]

Originally Posted by Jason

I cannot understand how any citizen of a law abiding country would refuse to celebrate the killing of the man that engineered and ordered the attacks on 9/11.

I can't understand how a law abiding citizen of a supposedly civilised western democracy could celebrate the death of anyone, no matter what their crimes.

The rule of law is such that execution is a required evil, it is not something to be celebrated or welcomed. To take visceral pleasure in another's death is to lower yourself to their inhuman depths.

I did not cheer and celebrate the death of Bin laden, I accepted that his death was a requirement to limit further bloodshed, a required act of evil to stop further, greater evil.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by 95th Rifleman

I can't understand how a law abiding citizen of a supposedly civilised western democracy could celebrate the death of anyone, no matter what their crimes.

The rule of law is such that execution is a required evil, it is not something to be celebrated or welcomed. To take visceral pleasure in another's death is to lower yourself to their inhuman depths.

I did not cheer and celebrate the death of Bin laden, I accepted that his death was a requirement to limit further bloodshed, a required act of evil to stop further, greater evil.

Celebrate does not mean to take visceral pleasure.

Originally Posted by dictionary.com

1. to observe (a day) or commemorate (an event) with ceremonies or festivities: to celebrate Christmas; to celebrate the success of a new play.

2. to make known publicly; proclaim: The newspaper celebrated the end of the war in red headlines.

3. to praise widely or to present to widespread and favorable public notice, as through newspapers or novels: a novel celebrating the joys of marriage; the countryside celebrated in the novels of Hardy.

4. to perform with appropriate rites and ceremonies; solemnize: to celebrate a marriage.

My intent in using the word celebrate was a reference to the second definition, and your suggestion that I have lowered myself to inhuman depths is a ridiculous exaggeration.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by 95th Rifleman

I can't understand how a law abiding citizen of a supposedly civilised western democracy could celebrate the death of anyone, no matter what their crimes.

The rule of law is such that execution is a required evil, it is not something to be celebrated or welcomed. To take visceral pleasure in another's death is to lower yourself to their inhuman depths.

I did not cheer and celebrate the death of Bin laden, I accepted that his death was a requirement to limit further bloodshed, a required act of evil to stop further, greater evil.

I'll grant you I spontaneously yelled when I heard the announcement that Bin Laden was dead, but it's not like I got pleasure from it. When I hear that Texas has executed another scumbag, I may think, "justice done," I'm not getting pleasure from it.

I also know the kind of scars you get on your soul when you kill someone, even when you know it was the right thing to do. A member of SEAL Team 6 or a state executioner probably has a soul that is filled with those scars. To them, well done, you're braver than I.

[Webstral]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I also know the kind of scars you get on your soul when you kill someone, even when you know it was the right thing to do. A member of SEAL Team 6 or a state executioner probably has a soul that is filled with those scars. To them, well done, you're braver than I.

I think about the guy I didn't kill. I'm sure I mentioned the incident in "Adagio for Strings". It's easy enough to press the trigger, it turns out. But a guy I could have killed saw his mom again because I didn't press the trigger, despite having all the wrong reasons for doing so. Whatever else happens, I'm not a mindless thug. I sleep a bit better knowing that.