So What Teams are Needed for the Project?

[Matt W]

Information and Coordination Teams

The Morrow Project can't rebuild everything. The IACT job is to get survivors working together and working with the Morrow Project

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by Matt W

Information and Coordination Teams

The Morrow Project can't rebuild everything. The IACT job is to get survivors working together and working with the Morrow Project

That is a good one, Matt!

My $0.02

Mike

[ArmySGT.]

Political Action Team.

A group of Specialists derived from Political Science Majors, Sociologists, and City Management.

Tailored to identify Parties, influence groups, and run an electoral system.

Not really intended to strong arm Parties into favorable actions for the Morrow Project. The intent is to remedy extremes, steer groups back into a Democratic process, create stable centrist local government with the intent to influence regional politics.

[robj3]

ArmySGT wrote:

The explanation for the lacking Soviet response is that the surprise was total and the Soviet Premier and High Command were out of position.

Sorry.
That's a crappy explanation in our timeline, and not much better in the TM1-1 one.
As previously noted - as soon as the U.S. ICBMs lifted off, the early warning satellites would have detected them.

We know from the Petrov incident that individual missile launches could be detected, let alone the large fraction of the 1,000 available ICBMs that would have been part of the U.S. first strike.

The General Secretary, Defense Minister and chief of the General Staff were required to have access to launch codes 24/7, like the U.S. President's 'football'.

The response came from "Dead Hand".

Which would have been activated shortly after the SLBMs landed if we're trying to minimise possible Soviet response time i.e. U.S. first strike was with SLBMs.

Mikeo80 wrote:

And maybe, just maybe, our first strike actually worked to some extent.

It wouldn't have in our world. The other side had launch on warning capability.

The TM1-1 alt-history is very different - the Soviets got bio-ICBM warheads to operational status - but their early warning capability matured quickly in the 1970s and early 1980s. I just can't see it being radically different from what actually got deployed.

The two superpowers attained effective parity of strategic nuclear forces in the 1980s.

Prior to this the U.S. had the larger and far more advanced force.

Either side could produce a global catastrophe in their own right.


Rob

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by robj3

ArmySGT wrote:


Sorry.
That's a crappy explanation in our timeline, and not much better in the TM1-1 one.
As previously noted - as soon as the U.S. ICBMs lifted off, the early warning satellites would have detected them.

We know from the Petrov incident that individual missile launches could be detected, let alone the large fraction of the 1,000 available ICBMs that would have been part of the U.S. first strike.

The General Secretary, Defense Minister and chief of the General Staff were required to have access to launch codes 24/7, like the U.S. President's 'football'.


Which would have been activated shortly after the SLBMs landed if we're trying to minimise possible Soviet response time i.e. U.S. first strike was with SLBMs.

Mikeo80 wrote:


It wouldn't have in our world. The other side had launch on warning capability.

The TM1-1 alt-history is very different - the Soviets got bio-ICBM warheads to operational status - but their early warning capability matured quickly in the 1970s and early 1980s. I just can't see it being radically different from what actually got deployed.

The two superpowers attained effective parity of strategic nuclear forces in the 1980s.

Prior to this the U.S. had the larger and far more advanced force.

Either side could produce a global catastrophe in their own right.


Rob

Well, remembering news articles of Boris Yeltsin being returned to the Russian official residence in Washington D.C black out drunk wearing only his underwear.... I find it not surprising.

Then a great number of them can be out of the Moscow Military District in their little (laughs) Dachas.

Lastly the Soviet Machine after Stalin was not about personal initiative. So everybody could well have been waiting for someone else.

The launches are a complete surprise to the American Officers in the Silos too and the Submarines too. There is no great crisis or political showdown. There no grand diplomatic displays.

http://www.historyorb.com/date/1989/november/18

It is a Saturday, most everyone is a home and Americans are planning their upcoming Thanksgiving feast.

Private E-1 Snuffy isn't bragging on the phone to all his friends and relatives that Armageddon starts Saturday.

The NSA and CIA parking lots are empty.

There is nothing to indicate anything to anyone that 18 November 1989 is the day the world dies.

[mikeo80]

If I may, let us go back to the team issue. I know I contributed to the "wandering afield" as it were.

Here is a team that might be considered. Several NEST Teams would be very usefull, especially if something the Soviets sent our way did NOT go boom. I refer, of course to Operation Lucifer.

IF TMP works the way it was supposed to, it stands to reason there would be at least a few warheads, both USSR and USA that did not go BOOM. Having someone with the skill, nerve and GREAT BIG BRASS ONES to neutralize a nuke.

My $0.02

Mike

[ArmySGT.]

Nuclear Biological Chemical specialist Team

Intended with the original five year plan to search for and map out nuclear strikes and fallout patterns.

To sample persistent chemical agents to classify by type, map areas contaminated, and assist decontamination efforts.

Sample viral pathogens and bacterial infection from victims or animal vectors such as mosquitoes, fleas, or rats to classify by type and aid medical teams in searching for an antigen.

Vehicle either a M93 FOX or a V-150 TOW vehicle refitted internally as a NBC recon vehicle.

With trailer mounter fusion powered hot water pressure washer for vehicles and shower apparatus for decontaminating people or livestock.