Tanks v. AFVs

[bobcat]

Originally Posted by The Rifleman

Thank god! Its something with armor and treads. Get rid of these dam armored cars. I hate the strikers, but this looks and sounds like a move in the right direction.

its a stryker with treads instead of wheels it has no more armor than a normal stryker(which is still better than an m113)

[The Rifleman]

Originally Posted by bobcat

its a stryker with treads instead of wheels it has no more armor than a normal stryker(which is still better than an m113)

Exactly. Its nothing more than tracks instead of wheels, and that is a move in the right direction!

[raketenjagdpanzer]

I changed the thread title as I didn't want to conflate "tank v. apc" to mean how would each fare in a battle versus one another.

[pmulcahy11b]

A trick we used as infantrymen was, if a decent depth of trees available, to sucker the DATs into the trees, where they had to move slower and usually couldn't turn their turrets far because their main guns got in the way. (It's amazing how often DATs fell for that one; my platoon sergeant at Ft Stewart told me it was an old trick when he came in the Army.) After that, you could tackle then with LAWs, Dragons, thrown grenades, or you could shoot out vision blocks. If you were mech and had Bradleys, that was a plus (though they could have the same problems with their autocannons).

[The Rifleman]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

A trick we used as infantrymen was, if a decent depth of trees available, to sucker the DATs into the trees, where they had to move slower and usually couldn't turn their turrets far because their main guns got in the way. (It's amazing how often DATs fell for that one; my platoon sergeant at Ft Stewart told me it was an old trick when he came in the Army.) After that, you could tackle then with LAWs, Dragons, thrown grenades, or you could shoot out vision blocks. If you were mech and had Bradleys, that was a plus (though they could have the same problems with their autocannons).

I like that idea. I'll keep that in back of my head. I was an E-5 in an Infantry battalion and we went up against 1-34 Armor at Hoensfelds. The hardest part about fighting them was the thermals are so good that you've got to get a real good hiding spot and you got to wait until they are past you. Quite scary knowing that a screw up and you're flat.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by The Rifleman

I like that idea. I'll keep that in back of my head. I was an E-5 in an Infantry battalion and we went up against 1-34 Armor at Hoensfelds. The hardest part about fighting them was the thermals are so good that you've got to get a real good hiding spot and you got to wait until they are past you. Quite scary knowing that a screw up and you're flat.

Well, as you know, you do a lot of making lemons into lemonade when you're the PBI.

[dragoon500ly]

On the other hand, the ability of an M-1 to sneak through the woods could always be counted upon to surprise the infantry. We actually took a section of four M-1s up on of Hohenfels razor-back ridges and sat on top, looking down into an infantry battalion as they prepared an anti-armor ambush for our squadron.

We sat up there, laughing our arses off, as the umpires drove around and "god-gunned" just about every vehicle that battalion. Gotta love simulated artillery!

At the end, when the umpires revealed to the PBI that they had been under direct observation by tanks. The LTC screamed that there were no tanks to his front...the look on his face when we crashed through the trees upslope and to his rear was a true Kodak moment!

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

I changed the thread title as I didn't want to conflate "tank v. apc" to mean how would each fare in a battle versus one another.

Yep, I fell for the old title just a few moments ago.