LOL and they even have a National Geographic special on them

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by weswood

Ya'll are all nuts. Econmic collapse? Seccession? Civil unrest and anarchy? Better happen in a hurry, Dec 21st is just over a month away and we're all going to die anyway and the dinosaurs will come back.

Maybe, just maybe weswood has something here????

Hostess Baking is going into bankruptcy.

This means NO MORE TWINKEES!!!

Can TEOTWAWKI be real? Is this what the Mayans saw at the end of their great cycle? Can civilization survive with out Twinkees???

I am surfing my way over to E-Bay to buy up those $5.00 a PIECE twinkees!!!

My $0.02

Mike

[Targan]

I've never eaten a Twinkie but I've known what they are since I was a kid because they had advertisements for them in American comic books

[weswood]

Originally Posted by Targan

I've never eaten a Twinkie but I've known what they are since I was a kid because they had advertisements for them in American comic books

I'm sorry for your loss.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Here's a question...

I remember reading the online book "Surviving a Nuclear War" and one of the prep things it said was to not only make ready for yourself and your family, but for one neighbor as well.

Clearly we're not in any immediate threat of a massive, 2500-missiles-over-the-Pole type exchange (I pray...) but as we've discussed, some of us have your Katrina or Sandy level event prepping down or ongoing - anyone here doing the "...and a little for the neighbor, too" thing?

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

Here's a question...

I remember reading the online book "Surviving a Nuclear War" and one of the prep things it said was to not only make ready for yourself and your family, but for one neighbor as well.

Clearly we're not in any immediate threat of a massive, 2500-missiles-over-the-Pole type exchange (I pray...) but as we've discussed, some of us have your Katrina or Sandy level event prepping down or ongoing - anyone here doing the "...and a little for the neighbor, too" thing?

I have not. Which neighbor do I choose? The single hardworking mom with two kids? The married couple where the man is in the USAF and the woman works at the local hospital as a respitory therapist? Etc.....

How do I tell one "Here is food and water" and the other "Sorry, all gone"?

I am afraid that my altruistic side would shrivel and DIE if SHTF. In all probabilty, I would do a "duck and cover" and wait....

It was Heinlein in his Starship Troopers that had Juan Rico state the following observation during his tour in O.C.S. Rico was reflecting on the H&MP course he was taking during OCS. "Man is what he is, a wild animal with the will to survive, and (so far) the ability, against all competition."

Pretty graphic. And I fear, all too accurate.

TO conclude my rambling on this subject. I like to think of myself as a moral being. However, if push comes to shove, the animal that lives inside will emerge.

My $0.02

Mike

[HorseSoldier]

Clearly we're not in any immediate threat of a massive, 2500-missiles-over-the-Pole type exchange (I pray...) but as we've discussed, some of us have your Katrina or Sandy level event prepping down or ongoing - anyone here doing the "...and a little for the neighbor, too" thing?

In places where there is a coherent sense of community and people know their neighbors this will tend to happen anyway. I think these days, though, that most neighborhoods are not especially coherent communities, with modern technology meaning we tend to socialize primarily with people that we share interests with, rather than those we share geography with.

[The Rifleman]

Originally Posted by HorseSoldier

In places where there is a coherent sense of community and people know their neighbors this will tend to happen anyway. I think these days, though, that most neighborhoods are not especially coherent communities, with modern technology meaning we tend to socialize primarily with people that we share interests with, rather than those we share geography with.

So true. You could probably argue that this very lack of community and sense of team play is what caused the decline of our society.

[The Rifleman]

Originally Posted by mikeo80

In all probabilty, I would do a "duck and cover" and wait....

It was Heinlein in his Starship Troopers that had Juan Rico state the following observation during his tour in O.C.S. Rico was reflecting on the H&MP course he was taking during OCS. "Man is what he is, a wild animal with the will to survive, and (so far) the ability, against all competition."

Pretty graphic. And I fear, all too accurate.

Mike

I agree with ducking and hiding. I would certainly not be out looting and I would also not have ovens baking great smelling bread. Best course of action is to lay low and let things run their course. Nature would take its course.

As an aside, starship troopers was required reading when I was at OCS. Can't remember who wrote it, but its a guy who really was a good soldier and NCO and must have gone on to be a great officer.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by The Rifleman

I agree with ducking and hiding. I would certainly not be out looting and I would also not have ovens baking great smelling bread. Best course of action is to lay low and let things run their course. Nature would take its course.

As an aside, starship troopers was required reading when I was at OCS. Can't remember who wrote it, but its a guy who really was a good soldier and NCO and must have gone on to be a great officer.

Robert A. Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers and served in the U.S. Navy on the first incarnation of the carrier Lexington. He was discharged for tuberculosis.

[The Rifleman]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

Here's a question...

I remember reading the online book "Surviving a Nuclear War" and one of the prep things it said was to not only make ready for yourself and your family, but for one neighbor as well.

Clearly we're not in any immediate threat of a massive, 2500-missiles-over-the-Pole type exchange (I pray...) but as we've discussed, some of us have your Katrina or Sandy level event prepping down or ongoing - anyone here doing the "...and a little for the neighbor, too" thing?

I am. You never know who's going to show up and I just might not have the heart to turn them away. Not only that, I came to the conclusion that I cannot defend my home, fruit trees, well and garden from attack on multiple sides without at least 9 shooters. Also, you've got to think about occasional night patrols and ambushes as well as 24 hour security. I have 7 adult "family" and I'm planning for 1 friend and his gf/wife.