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Old 04-28-2013, 10:03 PM
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Question what about all the tanks in private hands. Granted they are all demiled but they might be able to get fully functional again.
Depends on who has them. If by "Tanks" you mean main battle tanks (anything from the 30's onward) then they're either static, or in the hands of people who know what to do with them, and they might - depending on whatever warlord, would-be politician or MilGov wants - be pressed into service by 2000 (in the 'states, I mean).

With that said, there's owning a tank, and there's owning a tank and knowing what to do with it.

If the M48 in front of the VFW was maintained by a group of ageing Vietnam vets whose life expectancies have been cut short by wartime exigency and to boot they didn't really have a warehouse full of spare parts for when something breaks, odds are that tank is going to become more of a liability than an asset. Best to park it at an important overpass and sit there and look menacing.

But if you mean something the size of the Jacques Littlefield collection which is supported by a huge machine shop and more than a few skilled mechanics, that might become a real asset.
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Depends on who has them. If by "Tanks" you mean main battle tanks (anything from the 30's onward) then they're either static, or in the hands of people who know what to do with them, and they might - depending on whatever warlord, would-be politician or MilGov wants - be pressed into service by 2000 (in the 'states, I mean).

With that said, there's owning a tank, and there's owning a tank and knowing what to do with it.

If the M48 in front of the VFW was maintained by a group of ageing Vietnam vets whose life expectancies have been cut short by wartime exigency and to boot they didn't really have a warehouse full of spare parts for when something breaks, odds are that tank is going to become more of a liability than an asset. Best to park it at an important overpass and sit there and look menacing.

But if you mean something the size of the Jacques Littlefield collection which is supported by a huge machine shop and more than a few skilled mechanics, that might become a real asset.
The Littlefield collection, for sure, would have been pressed into service in CA for MilGov - especially considering how tank poor most of the units are there, both on MilGov and the Mexican side. Those tanks would prove crucial in any MilGov attempt to take back southern CA.
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The Littlefield collection, for sure, would have been pressed into service in CA for MilGov - especially considering how tank poor most of the units are there, both on MilGov and the Mexican side. Those tanks would prove crucial in any MilGov attempt to take back southern CA.
What's the physical address of the MVTF, though? I mean, if it's close to a primary site it's as good as done.
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No worries there - its in the mountains north of Santa Cruz and southwest of Sunnyvale - nothing hit anywhere near there - which means that the facility and its trained techs and vehicles is very much intact -

possibly even being used as a Depot by MilGov for its units in CA
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No worries there - its in the mountains north of Santa Cruz and southwest of Sunnyvale - nothing hit anywhere near there - which means that the facility and its trained techs and vehicles is very much intact -

possibly even being used as a Depot by MilGov for its units in CA
Depends on fallout patterns but it may be OK. And, assuming it is, yeah...I can see either CivGov or MilGov appropriating it for the "duration of the emergency" (and Littlefield (and by extension family) getting very good treatment as a result...probably not even triaged due to the condition that eventually took his life).
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Depends on fallout patterns but it may be OK. And, assuming it is, yeah...I can see either CivGov or MilGov appropriating it for the "duration of the emergency" (and Littlefield (and by extension family) getting very good treatment as a result...probably not even triaged due to the condition that eventually took his life).
Most likely it would be MilGov - they have all the CA units - CivGov is pretty much confined to the East, the South and the Midwest
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I noticed earlier in the thread a picture of the loyd carrier...
the Rhodesian used up armored and heavier armed T16 universal carriers during the war there in the 1970's.

So I can see earlier vehicles scaved up with some new armor or armaments just like the Syrians are doing in there current war.
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