Gulf/Caribbean Naval Activity?

[kalos72]

Don't forget St Croix has a LARGE refinery as well...

With such a rich target environment, I would imagine the navies would keep active to some degree.

Or else there is a port somewhere with 3 OSA class patrol boats just looking for a new home. :P

[Apache6]

I don't think there is any cannon coverage. What do you think happened to the base at Gitmo?

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by Apache6

I don't think there is any cannon coverage. What do you think happened to the base at Gitmo?

Since no strikes are listed, if the Cubans declared neutrality possibly "nothing at all". Of course if the Cubans had an intact military and wanted to take Guantanamo bay back, without a supply lifeline to the US, post '97 there'd be little the detachment left behind could do.

I guess we'd have to consider what assets the Marines would leave there before we could make a judgement call.

[Targan]

Gitmo would be abandoned some time after late '97, surely? The Marines are tough, heroic warriors, no doubt about it, but why hold onto the enclave when being overrun and cut off from resupply and reinforcement would be all but inevitable? I don't think the USMC would throw lives away for essentially nothing.

[Rainbow Six]

I can't be 100% certain about this (don't have access to any of my T2K books at the moment) but going from memory I think it's stated in the V2.X Big Yellow Book that the United States evacuates all its personnel from Guantanamo some time after the 1997 nuclear exchange (can't remember when).

I think it's then stated that the Cuban military move in and take over the base (or what's left of it) although I'm less certain about that.

If anyone has a copy of the BYB to hand check the section towards the back that gives a brief overview of the global situation - that's where I think it's mentioned. Can't recall what else (if anything) that part of the book says about the Caribbean.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Rainbow Six

If anyone has a copy of the BYB to hand check the section towards the back that gives a brief overview of the global situation - that's where I think it's mentioned. Can't recall what else (if anything) that part of the book says about the Caribbean..

Here it is.

Originally Posted by Twilight V 2.2

Guantanamo was evacuated by U.S. troops in 1999, and reclaimed by the Cuban military within days. It remains a major military cantonment.

[Rainbow Six]

Thanks Kato,

That raises the question of where the Guantanamo evacuees went (and how many of them there were). I would imagine Norfolk was their most likely destination (again iirc Norfolk is still functioning as a port despite being a target for nuclear strikes?)? Targan mentioned US Marines earlier, and I'd certainly agree that Marines would have stayed on at Guantanamo until the end to guarantee its security - so does that raise the possibility of one (or more) Rifle Companies of experienced US Marines active on the east coast of the US? Commanded by a Colonel Jessup type from a Few Good Men?

Just a thought...

[raketenjagdpanzer]

I realize it's not Canon, but in my Twilight: Florida vision the Saratoga has a major shoot out with the Russians in the FL straits, loses much of her air compliment, takes an ASM hit but manages to limp in to Key West where she is permanently docked, and will not sail again until extensive repairs are done. Her Sick bay, machine shops, power plants and more importantly manpower keep Key West safe and in MilGov hands. Her helos do very limited flights, and her offloaded remaining fixed-wing aircraft reside at Key West NAS, with two F18s deployed north to Homestead AFB, where there is a reserve of AvGas which allows short sorties on alert.

Her E2C Hawkeye aircraft are an invaluable resource in hurricane tracking (when they can fly).

[WallShadow]

"Based at Key West, Florida are 6 PHMs of PHM Squadron 2."

One wonders if the Conch Republic Navy "nationalizes" the military/Coast Guard assets to add to their own vessels?
http://www.conchrepublic.com/the_beginning.htm