Those Left Behind

[Olefin]

and actually the experiences of the characters themselves in getting out would lead them to either seek out their families or get word somehow to the 5th Divisions cantontment for them - in fact I am surprised its not part of Going Home - i.e. the logical way for the characters to escape is to go to that area to be able to pick up family members or tell those that are there what they know - i.e. they wont know the fate of the whole division but they will know the fate of a lot of people

For instance my character in the original game I played in college and his tank crew were the last survivors of his tank company - all the others were taken out in front of him (back story I came up with) - thus when I got back to Germany for Going Home you would think that communicating with the families of that company would be a priority, assuming they had any

not all soliders would have had any families there but some would for sure

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by Olefin

and actually the experiences of the characters themselves in getting out would lead them to either seek out their families or get word somehow to the 5th Divisions cantontment for them - in fact I am surprised its not part of Going Home - i.e. the logical way for the characters to escape is to go to that area to be able to pick up family members or tell those that are there what they know - i.e. they wont know the fate of the whole division but they will know the fate of a lot of people

Sorry but I can't help but think of some poor bloke that fights his way across western Poland to get back to the cantonment in Germany to see his fraulein only to find when he gets there that she gave up on him months ago and has found herself a new boyfriend...

[Olefin]

would make for excellent Return to Europe type material - a bunch of husbands/wives/soldiers who didnt go on the offensive (i.e. the player characters) head out from the cantonment of the 5th to find out what happened to their loved ones and comrades and break some of them out of a god forsaken POW camp somewhere in central Poland

Damn Webstral this is a great thread idea!! Keep them coming.

[Brother in Arms]

Yeah Webstral has quite the imaginative head on his shoulders. His ideas area always affecting my perspective, and giving me better ideas.

Brother in Arms

[kato13]

Where was the 5th's pre-assault cantonment? For some reason I thought it was now behind enemy lines.

[Olefin]

Actually I am not sure if it was ever named as to the exact spot - and if it was in the path of the enemy offensive they may have retreated before it and now be somewhere else in Germany. Actually it may have been concurrent with the cantontments for all the US and Canadian units involved in the offensive

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by kato13

Where was the 5th's pre-assault cantonment? For some reason I thought it was now behind enemy lines.

The only thing I can remember tonight about 5th ID and 8th ID and the cantonments was a statement in both V1.0 and 2.2. I will paraphrase as I do not have the books in front of me right now. The American forces were chosen to be part of the operation because they had fewer attachments to their cantonments.

Now this implies to me that the reinforcement of the American Troops that was started by both Mil-Gov and Civ-Gov were successful to a degree. Both sources state that both governments scratched together ANY warship and/or cargo ship to re-supply Europe.

My $0.02

Mike

[kato13]

I think this is where I got it from.

The United States 5th Infantry Division (Mechanized) jumped
off on its raid on June 19th from Chojnice and Czluchow in a
converging drive on the Bydgoszcz and Torun area.

From "Death of a Division"

I don't know if that is where they had cantonments of just where they moved to start the summer offensive. On rereading it, I suspect they moved there. (Edit)
Shortly after the division died Chojnice and Czluchow were well behind enemy lines. 100 Km from nearest friendly unit (2nd US Marine) and about 200km from the majority of the front lines.

[Adm.Lee]

I don't think there was any info about where any formation in US XI Corps was based prior to the spring of 2000, and I'm pretty sure I've looked. Depending on which US Army (Fourth or Seventh) it was attached to, it could be anywhere. Myself, I'd put it in the north or northwest, meaning it crossed Germany to join the Third German Army, but that it was available for use-- not holding the line against the Pact in the east or the south.

In college, I remember I ran an NPC, a German recon NCO with a wife and daughter in Bremen (or was it Hannover?). At least one of the players made it a personal goal to get him back home.

Running a group of left-behinds, trying to pick up the fate of the 5th Division would be a very interesting idea-- they would have to move fast, if they hope to beat Omega.