Female Combat Soldiers in T2K

[Jason]

There are some misconceptions in this thread about female soldiers in general, and those in the IDF in particular.

From what I gather, about 1500 female IDF soldiers serve in combat roles (including firing arty and flying combat sorties). Females do serve as insructors at all levels. There is one light infantry battalion that is all female. That is about it. Female IDF soldiers have not been in combat in significant numbers since 1948.

Women are capable fighters. Even on the modern battlefield females can and will fight and kill the enemy. Female soviet snipers in WWII racked up huge numbers of dead germans. Female insurgents have been around for many years, including some killed by American soldiers in Vietnam. As far as females being too caring or nurturing, well you have not met some of the women I know.

The fact is however, no large group of military trained and disciplined female troops has been combat tested on the modern battlefield. There is not enough data to justify sweeping conclusions about female combat efficiency. In T2K I think it is natural to allow females to serve in the combat branches. Most players will roll men anyway, but limiting player choices is usually not a good idea.

[Mohoender]

I agree with Jason

Anyway in T2K it will effectively depend on whom is playing the female character.

If that's your best friend's girl friend and you prefer to rule her out. Just tell her exactly what we have been discussing here. The downside is that you might lose your best friend as well (at least for a time).

If that's one of your friend (male I mean), adapt!

If that's one of your friend (female and gorgeous), always go on her side. You might get complains from your male players but you might bring her to your bed (They'll understand).

If that's your girl friend (or wife) deny having any participation in that discussion unless you want to try her agressiveness at home. Strangely, women tend to raise issues right before the football match you had been planing to watch for weeks.

If she is open minded, and accepts that women can do things as men but have to do it differently, then, marry her! That's what I did and I still don't regret it.

[copeab]

One thing to consider is that by 2000, the physical and mental quality of male recruits of is going to be well under what armies started the Twilight War with. Men who would have been rejected for service out of hand in 1995 will be handed a rifle and uniform in 2000. I think comparing female soldiers to peacetime male soldiers is misleading, as in T2K that's not who they should be compared to because most of the peacetime soldiers are dead.

[kalos72]

Regardless of any "are they capable" modern discussion, I think its rather obvious that in most areas of T2k population, women will be used more so for "civic" style jobs.

Farming, crafting, sewing, methanol production, clearing rubble and such leaving the men to either hunt or protect the community.

In areas where there is a surplus of labor, then I can see them being used more for militia tasks, but still more support oriented.

Only time I see that being different is when the local militia is in short supply, like if the men have just fought off a large assault and many are either dead or disabled. Then women would be used to man the towers or patrol the walls, but again, local leaders will try and keep them out of direct contact with the enemy.

I think its more of a mental thing then a true capacity issue. At least in the US, I think most men in the service are "comfortable" with seeing another man get injured. But society has "trained" most men to view women differently. Enough so that seeing a women get wounded would cause most of us to react differently, potentially a very bad thing in certain situations.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by kalos72

Farming, crafting, sewing, methanol production, clearing rubble and such leaving the men to either hunt or protect the community.

Hope not to hijack. Please reply in the link below.

If you are going for realism (which from your posts you seem to be) you need to drop methanol as a fuel source. This was one of the largest mistakes in the game IMO. I understand why they put it in but the chemestry is not at all realistic.

My methanol post