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How many would be told to stay in place, and finish their training?
How many countries would have an operational training base or bases left? How many countries would still be sending students to the US or Canada because they no longer can train them at home?
How many stayed because their isn't any practical way to get home?
How many are here as advisers teaching NATO troops to fight in their home countries terrain and navigate the culture?
How many are in multinational commands like NORAD, SAC, or Atlantic Fleet?
Also, don't forget USMC embassy guards.
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Also: Airborne School, Air Assault School, Ranger School, NTC, JRTC, Arctic/Mountain School, Basic and Advanced Pilot Training; I'm sure there's much more.
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Also: Airborne School, Air Assault School, Ranger School, NTC, JRTC, Arctic/Mountain School, Basic and Advanced Pilot Training; I'm sure there's much more.
Dive school, EOD tech, Maintenance officer, Signals Intel.,

This doesn't even consider the massive retraining of Air Force and Naval personnel when there are no ships to put to see; or aircraft to fly any longer.

Other countries could be pooling resources on that too. One cruise ship could bring hundreds of European military personnel to North America that would then divide up for every school type imaginable. Promised to one day return.

Possibly even with a refugee ship desperate to go somewhere that could be better.
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If you're a nation at war, why on earth would you waste resources & time to send battalions of troops to a foreign country for training? You'd train them at home and send them to where they're needed as soon as possible.
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If you're a nation at war, why on earth would you waste resources & time to send battalions of troops to a foreign country for training? You'd train them at home and send them to where they're needed as soon as possible.
To get them trained out of the reach of enemy bombers and theater capable missile. Can't train very well with live enemy ordnance falling on your head.

This all includes smaller nations without the GDP pre-War to have afforded the facilities in the first place.
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That makes the assumption that "the frontline is everywhere".
During the final years of the Twilight War that might be true but I don't recall anything in the timeline (to be fair, it's been a while since I read it) that indicates this is the case during the early years of the war.

Enemy training areas are typically low priority targets when you have enemy bomber bases and enemy theatre capable missiles to worry about.
Aside from all that, if we follow the line of reasoning that the attacker will attack training areas within the country, why would they not also attack airports and seaports to prevent those trainees from leaving (or re-entering once they've been trained)?
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That makes the assumption that "the frontline is everywhere".
During the final years of the Twilight War that might be true but I don't recall anything in the timeline (to be fair, it's been a while since I read it) that indicates this is the case during the early years of the war.
This would be more true in the early and especially middle years. At that time bombers and conventional bombs; more so bombers with air launched cruise missiles are still available. Training bases are primary muster locations for reserve units and as such legitimate military targets that disrupt operations and demoralize your opponent when attacked.

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Enemy training areas are typically low priority targets when you have enemy bomber bases and enemy theatre capable missiles to worry about.
Aside from all that, if we follow the line of reasoning that the attacker will attack training areas within the country, why would they not also attack airports and seaports to prevent those trainees from leaving (or re-entering once they've been trained)?
I agree any competent attacker would; striking an airport or seaport could make them unsuitable for weeks or months. A strike on a training base is two fold. One you have killed or wounded the trainees, they are no longer fit to fight. You have destroyed the capability to train them, the instructors are dead or wounded, and the facilities smashed. Third, you have demoralized the local civilian population. Who is going to let their son or daughter sign up to a military that cannot even protect itself at home?

It is the same reason the U.S. and Allied nations expend Tomahawks on desert encampments of tents.
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Also, don't forget USMC embassy guards.
Outside the U.S. ....... My thoughts being military personnel other than U.S. on U.S. soil......

Can you imagine Warsaw Pact embassy staff after the TDM?

Do you suppose everyone closed up their Embassies and Consulates when things escalated to shooting?

Did some Embassies remain open as the conduit for communications between the Warsaw Pact and NATO.....

Does Micronesia or Madagascar really have a stake in all this?

With war in Europe and Asia wouldn't other nations be sending their Officers and Senior NCOs possibly even Battalions of green recruits to train in the western hemisphere?

Chile could be killing it training desert warfare, alpine warfare, and amphibious assault to countries willing to fund it.

Panama could be running Jungle Warfare school for several southeast asia and Polynesian nations.

Small towns all over the U.S. and Canada could find themselves the home of a technical school for sailors and airmen learning their trades.

Some of them not even from north America.
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