Police TO&E......

[CDAT]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

Do you find Pepper spray to be nearly useless against a determined perp too? We had guys who used the stuff as Buffalo Wing seasoning....

My experience with Pepper spray is that how it affects people very from person to person. In the academy we had one guy who it was like water on him, a different one totally out of the fight. If it was up to me and I had to have a ranged less lethal I want a Tazer.

[LT. Ox]

Originally Posted by CDAT

My experience with Pepper spray is that how it affects people very from person to person. In the academy we had one guy who it was like water on him, a different one totally out of the fight. If it was up to me and I had to have a ranged less lethal I want a Tazer.

Never have I seen that not work when it hits. Being trained in its use is not laughs I do not think I will ever forget the effects.

[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by LT. Ox

Never have I seen that not work when it hits. Being trained in its use is not laughs I do not think I will ever forget the effects.

I've taken "The 5 second ride" in training. We all did. It was a point of pride to do it. If your older or have a weak bladder I'd suggest emptying it before you do. We had one guy from the County Jail who couldn't live that down. My partner Chris got nicknamed "Chewy" because he sounded just like a Wookie when they tased him. The only thing that came close to being tased was when I got "flashbanged" playing a perp during a force-on-force exercise. It takes about 20 to 30 seconds to recover from that. Even the CS gas in basic doesn't equate to the misery a taser can dish out. Stunguns are poor cousins to Tasers. Your skin is a good insulator; So an attacker with a stungun has to strike you on a "pain compliant/pressure point" location to really cause you enough pain to stop your action. I found the belly button, back of knee, back of neck, elbow, groin or armpit to be the only really effective "stun points" using a stungun. A taser works everywhere on the body. I have also NEVER seen someone knocked unconscious by a stungun. A taser can do that (especially if the perp falls and hit's their head). It took me a GOOD five seconds to get up after the tasing. Getting the barbs taken out of you isn't fun either...exactly the same as having a fishhook removed....