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Old 11-30-2015, 06:16 PM
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I think that the best thing to do with trolls is ignore them.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:41 PM
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The problem here is in how the question was put.

"Who won WWII" has an obvious historic answer based on how history played out: the Allies.

To discuss one of the allies as winning without the rest belittles the effort of the other nations, both behind and at the front lines.

The question you want to ask was "Who Could Have Won WW2?"

It is theoretical, does not deny anyone's actual effort, and can be a much calmer and reasoned discussion.

Nor does it require a single answer.

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See gentlemen, that wasn't so hard to play nice. Thank you to all involved!
And yes unkated, I agree the thread title probably did unintentionally contribute to the tone (not that it could have been foreseen).
Very happy to see that with a little step back and a deep breath we can get our shit sorted in house like grown up boys and girls.

Shall we proceed as suggested that this entire discussion be treated as one great big "what if"?

In that spirit, how do you think WWII would have been different (if at all) if the Treaty of Versailles hadn't been so hard on Germany?
Would it perhaps be the USSR that were the aggressors and a complete different Germany an ally against them?
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