Poison

[General Pain]

has anybody a decent list of poisons ...with onset time - delivery method - effects - antidote etc - production,where it can be found etc....

reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison

[jester]

Aspirin; about 4 hours, normal, lethargy, fatigue, then halucienation and then death.

Antidote, NONE it takes about 40 tablets

Nicotene, ever smoke to many cigaterres? Boil down 100 or so used cigarette butts, remove the butts and boil it down into a resin. Be careful when doing this, the fumes will send your heart racing. Add the substance idealy to alcohol to hide the taste, it will basicaly give a heartattack



A general antidote is to administer charcoal which is supposed to absorve the medication/poison, it needs to be done soon however before the meds or the majority of them are absorved into the system.


Other natural poisons,

Belladona
Morning Glory seeds
Nightshade
Manioc or casava sap
Apricote or Peach pits which contain cyanide
Lead-insanty halucindation, anmeia and death
Potasium-slows the heart

[Targan]

Bitter almonds contain arsenic.

I've heard that adding tomato leaves to salad can cause heart attacks.

[General Pain]

Originally Posted by Targan

Bitter almonds contain arsenic.

I've heard that adding tomato leaves to salad can cause heart attacks.

Keep the ideas coming guys....you're making the ghost of Agatha Cristie proud

[Mohoender]

Pink Laurel (Nerium Oleander). One of the most dangerous plant you find around the mediterranean (especially in school yards , I'm not kidding). All parts of the plant is toxic and a single leaf can kill an adult by heart failure. During the Napoleonic wars, some french soldiers died because they use a stick made from it to cook their meat.

[jester]

Oleander! Thats the one I have been trying to think of for these weeks.

Mushrooms! Lets not forget the shrooms. And I would wager they taste like regular mushrooms sauteed with a little salt and butter, by the time you realise, if at all it will be to late.

Insulin, in a normal person it can be deadly.

Rockfish, their spines are poisonous, get enough of it, let it dry and add it to whatever you wish as a vector. These can be instant with localized pain which can turn to shock, as well as an allergic reaction in sensitive people or in large enough quantities.

Catfish Spines; these are also poisonous with intense stinging which can be localized and if enough venom or a sensistive person can sent them into shock, stop the heart of similiar affects.

Assorted snake and other venom harvested and either dried to concentrate it, or liquid form and delivered to your victim.

Any of the Beladona family of which tomatoes and potatoes are members, thus in the old days these were considered poisonous.

SEAL Liver I heard has a high concentration of Vitim D which is enough to kill you.

Ergot poisoning, from a type of fungus on grain.

Those are some more poisons off the top of my head.

I will hit the poison garden at school and have some more names in the next week or so.

[Mohoender]

Originally Posted by jester

Oleander! Thats the one I have been trying to think of for these weeks.

They are everywhere were I'm living. First thing you teach your kids is not to touch plants and not to put leaves in mouth.

[jester]

Yes, they are very common here where I live and also where I grew up in Ca. We learned the same thing as well.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by jester

Oleander! Thats the one I have been trying to think of for these weeks.

When I was a teenager a lamb my family had as a pet died after eating oleander. First it went blind, then it croaked. Nasty.

[Mohoender]

Originally Posted by Targan

When I was a teenager a lamb my family had as a pet died after eating oleander. First it went blind, then it croaked. Nasty.

That one obviously improved the species. Usually, only humans are stupid enough to do these kind of things.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Mohoender

That one obviously improved the species. Usually, only humans are stupid enough to do these kind of things.

Sadly you are correct. Sheep aren't the brightest of animals but he was dumb even for a sheep. No great loss.

[General Pain]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poisonous_plants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_poisoning
http://plantanswers.tamu.edu/publica...on/poison.html
http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C10/C...y/blpoison.htm

[General Pain]

Originally Posted by Mohoender

That one obviously improved the species. Usually, only humans are stupid enough to do these kind of things.

Don't forget that stupidity is the most powerfull force in the universe

(gravity is nr 2)

[Mohoender]

Originally Posted by General Pain

Don't forget that stupidity is the most powerfull force in the universe

(gravity is nr 2)

I don't and I have Einstein saying printed on top of my desk: Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. The downside, is that I often can recognize myself into it.

[WallShadow]

While not a natural poison, a subtle and effective poison is antifreeze--it causes kidney failure, and is especially attractive to dogs and cats because of its sweet flavor.

For a truly nasty lingering painful death, overdose the victim with Tylenol/acetaminophen; they will briefly recover, then die by inches from liver failure. This should be reserved for the KGB torturer who got to your best buds.

[WallShadow]

This bit of trivia popped back up from high school chemistry while I was contemplating alternative methods of refrigeration. Old (very old) models of refrigerators used sulfur dioxide as a refrigerant. Which is all well and good as long as it stays in its sealed loop and, like Gremlins, _never_ comes in contact with water.
Otherwise--instant sulfuric acid. Not pleasant against the skin, and even less pleasant to breathe when aerosolized.

[WallShadow]

Originally Posted by jester

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Nicotene, ever smoke to many cigaterres? Boil down 100 or so used cigarette butts, remove the butts and boil it down into a resin. Be careful when doing this, the fumes will send your heart racing. Add the substance idealy to alcohol to hide the taste, it will basicaly give a heartattack


A general antidote is to administer charcoal which is supposed to absorve the medication/poison, it needs to be done soon however before the meds or the majority of them are absorved into the system.

A slightly-off friend of mine came up with something like the nicotine bit, but was considering DMSO and paintballs injected with the stuff as a delivery mechanism.

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Originally Posted by WallShadow

This bit of trivia popped back up from high school chemistry while I was contemplating alternative methods of refrigeration. Old (very old) models of refrigerators used sulfur dioxide as a refrigerant. Which is all well and good as long as it stays in its sealed loop and, like Gremlins, _never_ comes in contact with water.
Otherwise--instant sulfuric acid. Not pleasant against the skin, and even less pleasant to breathe when aerosolized.

I remember my grandmother telling me that since my grandfather services refrigerators from the 1930's until he died in 1966. He got exposed to the sulphur dioxide and it was very unpleasant. He passed away from Hodgkin's disease and my grandmother was convinced that the sulphur gas was part of it. I dunno myself, who knows, but yeah, before freon and what we have now, it was the main method of cooling.

[.45cultist]

Atropine used to counter nerve agents is belladonna derived.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man 1966

I dunno myself, who knows, but yeah, before freon and what we have now, it was the main method of cooling.

And of course if you burn Freon you get Phosgene, also bloody horrible toxic stuff.

[WallShadow]

Originally Posted by Targan

And of course if you burn Freon you get Phosgene, also bloody horrible toxic stuff.

Phosgene???? Gah!!!!!
Yes. _Nasty_ stuff. Smells like cat whiz, or so I've read.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by jester

Aspirin; about 4 hours, normal, lethargy, fatigue, then halucienation and then death.

Antidote, NONE it takes about 40 tablets

Nicotene, ever smoke to many cigaterres? Boil down 100 or so used cigarette butts, remove the butts and boil it down into a resin. Be careful when doing this, the fumes will send your heart racing. Add the substance idealy to alcohol to hide the taste, it will basicaly give a heartattack



A general antidote is to administer charcoal which is supposed to absorve the medication/poison, it needs to be done soon however before the meds or the majority of them are absorved into the system.


Other natural poisons,

Belladona
Morning Glory seeds
Nightshade
Manioc or casava sap
Apricote or Peach pits which contain cyanide
Lead-insanty halucindation, anmeia and death
Potasium-slows the heart

Nicotene was used as an insecticide as well.

[CDAT]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

Nicotene was used as an insecticide as well.

We had a guy at stop by work yesterday and try to tell us that he should be able to use his E-sig as Nicotene is good for you. Some peoples children.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by CDAT

We had a guy at stop by work yesterday and try to tell us that he should be able to use his E-sig as Nicotene is good for you. Some peoples children.

Oh Good Grief! Tell that genius about it being distilled into bug killer. Or laugh at him.

[kato13]

Nicotine does seem to help schizophrenia. The theory is that is why many schizophrenics self medicate with it.

Recently there has been research into its effects on several other neurological disorders (such as Parkinson's), but I don't think there is solid science on this yet.

[ArmySGT.]

Death Cap (Death's Cap) mushroom....... Seem like every year some family dies around the dinner table eating wild mushroom soup in the Pacific NorthWest.

[ArmySGT.]

A Master Poisoner would utilize something with 2-3 components that are only deadly in combination and inert otherwise. The poisoner can eat the same meal, breathe the same air, drink the same wine........ while the poisoned dies....... thus evading suspicion. Something on your glove when you shake hands, something areosolized in the candles, something on the arms of the chair.

Bamf....... face down in the third course.

[ArmySGT.]

Don't forget ricin derived from boiling down castor beans.