How do you handle vehicular combat?

[Milano]

Thanks for the heads up. Any thoughts on ricochets? Any tankers here that have shot at old M48s and seen them? Are they likely with modern ammunition?

As an aside, why not the Meverka?

[CDAT]

Originally Posted by Milano

Thanks for the heads up. Any thoughts on ricochets? Any tankers here that have shot at old M48s and seen them? Are they likely with modern ammunition?

As an aside, why not the Meverka?

First, all tanks are built with the balanceing act of firepower, armor/survivablity, and mobility. The Meverka is built around crew survivability as number one, so you may take out the tank, but the crew will very likely survive, compared to the M1 we were always told that it was unlikely we would survive anything that takes out the tank.

As for ricochets are you talking main gun rounds or small arms? Small arms first, they will have expended most of there energy hitting the tank, and so not do much to anything armored, something not so armored (like a human) likely would be injured (possibly very badly) but even here I think you are likely looking at no more than 5-10ft hazard area (maybe even less for things like 9mm and such). We even had a request for the other tanks to shoot us, we would ask them to scratch our back, they would turn the 240 or .50 on us (mostly to get PBI off of us). If you are talking about main gun rounds first thing to remember is that they come in two types, chemical (HE, HEP, HESH, HEAT and the likes) and solid (AP, APDS, APFSDS and the like) for the chemical they will either go boom, or become a UXO, but ricocheting is not the main worry here, and for the most part can be ignored (if you want to deal with the UXO that is a different issue). For the solid shot, I have never seen what war stock looks like after hitting a hard target, but have seen the target practice rounds after they hit one. There is still a lot of metal to them, and it is still moving at a fair speed (nothing like what it was, but still has some speed to it), how ever at least the TP ones are very badly bent so not likely to fly with any predictable path, and not for very far. They would be a series concern for any dismounts around, but not likely to be a threat to any armored vehicle (DU rounds very well may be an exception to this, as they are shelf sharpening, so much more likely to still have a point and so may be straighter. One other thing about the DU rounds is that they burn, good when you penetrate a tank, not so good after it leaves said tank (target), or you miss, as they makes it more likely that to have a viable round going someplace.

[pmulcahy11b]

Well short answer: Normal-sized engagement, T2K 2.2 rules. large engagement, Last Battle. I used to have counters and AT stats for just about eny behicle or weapon I could think of at the time, but alas, the box they were in didn't make it back from Ft Bragg, my last duty station.