Alternate version of New America...

[natehale1971]

When i can find my notes, i'll post them. showing just how "new america' was... originally based upon the ideals of the United States Progressive Party, and their leadership that i had written up (just like i have for Cummings)

[Targan]

I have left New America in my campaign exactly as it was written in the modules. I find the racism of New America has helped in my campaign because it has left one of my main PCs, Major Anthony Po, somewhat conflicted - he agrees with much of New America's policies but he is a Chinese American. Po thinks of himself as part of America's neo-aristocracy already (before the war is was one of the top 100 most wealthy people in the USA) and is highly offended that New America would not consider him to be one of their 'Natural Aristocrats' because of his ethnicity.

[headquarters]

I have twisted the faction into a similar entity with different wrapping -the New Dawn Party .

Its a utilatarian (?) ,totalitarian militant organization with a" you are a member or an enemy policy".

Its got cells and enforcers etc but it also operates overtly and at one time actually held power ..
yep- we are canon nonconformist heathen norse swine up here ,mixing good and righteous material with our own dark traditions.

[General Pain]

Originally Posted by headquarters

I have twisted the faction into a similar entity with different wrapping -the New Dawn Party .

Its a utilatarian (?) ,totalitarian militant organization with a" you are a member or an enemy policy".

Its got cells and enforcers etc but it also operates overtly and at one time actually held power ..
yep- we are canon nonconformist heathen norse swine up here ,mixing good and righteous material with our own dark traditions.

The good General (my character) had a wonderful and just faction going on in your campaign....It was filled with food / work / television for the masses.....the good old days.....I'll get it back you know.....I just have to estinguish some candles in the process he he

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Targan

I have left New America in my campaign exactly as it was written in the modules. I find the racism of New America has helped in my campaign because it has left one of my main PCs, Major Anthony Po, somewhat conflicted - he agrees with much of New America's policies but he is a Chinese American. Po thinks of himself as part of America's neo-aristocracy already (before the war is was one of the top 100 most wealthy people in the USA) and is highly offended that New America would not consider him to be one of their 'Natural Aristocrats' because of his ethnicity.

That is a perfect conflict. Have they had any direct contact yet?

[Targan]

Originally Posted by kato13

That is a perfect conflict. Have they had any direct contact yet?

Kind of. Po's group wiped out a CIA cell and its hired guns operating in New Jersey and during that six or seven week conflict it emerged that the leader of the CIA group and at least some of his underlings were New America members or sympathisers.
Other than that there was only the scanty information on New America in intel briefings that Po received from MilGov HQ in Norfolk when he returned from Europe.

[Rainbow Six]

To be honest, as a Brit living in the UK I never quite "got" the whole concept of New Anerica when it was first introduced in what was it, late 80's? In those pre internet (and pre foreign travel) days the US in general was a whole different World that I only knew from TV shows, and I had a hard time getting my head round the idea that such an organisation could exist. So i tended to ignore them.

These days I guess I'm more worldy wise, but as my T2K attention isn't focused on the US, I've continued to disregard New America completely.

[Adam F]

I personally think New America kinda worked in the eighties (with the comedy buffoonish eeevilness of them tuned down considerably), but aren't plausible as such a widespread and organised faction in a more present day or near future setting.

I'm actually giving the name to a more localised Floridan based Scientologist faction in my present campaign. The Scientologists fill the bill nicely as a wacked-out loony faction that is already armed and potentially rather dangerous in a post-apoc future.

[weswood]

What makes me wonder is that from what I remember of the 80's when the game was written, racism was on the decline. I can remember race riots in a couple schools in Georgia and Louisiana that I went to in the late 70's, but I can't remember any real problems in the 80's. And it seems that unfortuneatley that it's on the rise again, at least to a right wing conservative southern redneck

And no, I don't believe in the whole New America concept. If I ever use them, they'll be left wing comunist radicals!