Some T2K artwork i've done...

[Raellus]

Once again, nice work. I recognize the Soviet sniper one from a Ron Volstad plate in one of the Osprey Elite books. Volstad and Angus McBride are two of my favorite military illustrators.

I was just browsing through Armies of the Night and recognized scenes based on stills from the movies Big Trouble in Little China and Raw Deal, plus various B-movies I can't name. There's also one of a street gang leader based on a pic of Rob Halford of Judas Priest!

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I was just browsing through Armies of the Night and recognized scenes based on stills from the movies Big Trouble in Little China and Raw Deal

ROFL. I totally remember the Raw Deal one now.

Excellent work on the second set Nate. Not only have you reignited some Morrow Ideas in my head you may also get me to pick up my Rapidograph pens again.

[natehale1971]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Once again, nice work. I recognize the Soviet sniper one from a Ron Volstad plate in one of the Osprey Elite books. Volstad and Angus McBride are two of my favorite military illustrators.

I was just browsing through Armies of the Night and recognized scenes based on stills from the movies Big Trouble in Little China and Raw Deal, plus various B-movies I can't name. There's also one of a street gang leader based on a pic of Rob Halford of Judas Priest!

That is one of my favorites, and i used the sniper one for something from when i first started playing T2k... i have about ten colorized versions of it that i've done. each one trying to experiment with different colorations. namely for my work on the 2300AD RPG stuff i had been exprimenting with. i just wish i cold find them so i can scan them.

[Targan]

Great Work Nate. I really like the armoured up truck, reminded me of our gun truck thread from a while back.

Glad to hear you are into T2300 as well.

[headquarters]

I would like to see more .

[Rainbow Six]

Absolutely awesome work.

Very well done indeed...those deserve to be in print somewhere.

[General Pain]

very very good

[Fusilier]

Awesome pics. Its too bad 2013 didn't accept it. From the looks of their work, they seem to have needed all the (quality) help they could get.

Fine stuff.

Originally Posted by Raellus

Once again, nice work. I recognize the Soviet sniper one from a Ron Volstad plate in one of the Osprey Elite books. Volstad and Angus McBride are two of my favorite military illustrators.

I thought I recognized those.

Pictures are great, but your ACUs are slightly off in a few of those...missing the IR chit covers, and three cell writing utensil pouch on the left forearm sleeve. Also, the cuffs and their velcro should be present. The rank insignia on the chest, unless it's a two star general or more, needs to be a two by two inch square. Note that with the first pic, the bottom part of the ACU coat blouses out more, following the cut of the male Vee shape of the torso that melds into his pelvic area. Finally, a very slight, but noticeable line goes down the center of the velcro shoulder sleeve insignia areas on either shoulder.

Sorry if I offend, I just have a very intimate relationship with the Army Combat Uniform.

[pmulcahy11b]

I missed out on the ACUs -- when I retired, we were still wearing the BDUs and DCUs.

[chico20854]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I missed out on the ACUs -- when I retired, we were still wearing the BDUs and DCUs.

To paraphrase Office Space "Well, I wouldn't say I missed the ACUs". The last major task I did as a supply sergeant - the day before I got out - was issue out the black berets to the whole unit. So I was on the tail end of the BDU era. But my friends that are still in are not fans of the ACU, for a host of reasons from fit, Army mickey-mouse about appearance, to the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the camouflage pattern.

[smokewolf]

Since it was brought up...for the record, I loved the work.

Unfortunately, many of the drawings submitted were images from famous people, recognizable imagery or scenes from movies/TV and thus derivative work. The inclusion of it would have been a copyright violation of the original work.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by smokewolf

Unfortunately, many of the drawings submitted were images from famous people, recognizable imagery or scenes from movies/TV and thus derivative work. The inclusion of it would have been a copyright violation of the original work.

I understand your position. It makes perfect sense in our letiginous society. Some of the work, though, appears original or based on open source/non-copyrighted images. Now that you've mentioned it, I'm wondering how GDW got away with some of the artwork they included (see my previous post) in the v1 and v2 materials- some of it is ripped right off of movie posters.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Now that you've mentioned it, I'm wondering how GDW got away with some of the artwork they included (see my previous post) in the v1 and v2 materials- some of it is ripped right off of movie posters.

Well GDW's death was partially due to lawsuits regarding copyright infringements. Admittedly it was TSR vs Gygax and not images but you can't be too careful nowadays.

[smokewolf]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I'm wondering how GDW got away with some of the artwork they included (see my previous post) in the v1 and v2 materials- some of it is ripped right off of movie posters.

You can do derivative works you just need permission from the copyright holder. Not sure about GDW or the artists they used, but could be they had permission.

[natehale1971]

Originally Posted by smokewolf

Since it was brought up...for the record, I loved the work.

Unfortunately, many of the drawings submitted were images from famous people, recognizable imagery or scenes from movies/TV and thus derivative work. The inclusion of it would have been a copyright violation of the original work.

I admit that it wasn't until after you had turned them down that i discovered that the doctor and child looked like the character Dr. Greene from ER. i'm not upset that the artwork didn't get used, that was my 'wife' who got upset and used it at any and every opurtunity to hurt me. And still does, and this is after i've aggreed to give her the divorce she wants. go figure.

[natehale1971]

In my campaign, i had National Guard units back in the US using Vietnam-era (and older) surplus uniforms and other personal equipment. Heck, my MP campaign the Snake-Eater teams had caches full of had uniforms, weapons and equipment that was drawn from stocks as far back as early-WW2 (M1941 field uniforms for example). Normally these where intended to be issued to locally raised and trained militias... but these are US Army Special Forces green berets, so they would be wearing the same thing, using the same gear (possibly with their more modern weapons if they so chose)... One of the Snake-Eater teams had a major stockpile of WW2 weapons, uniforms, equipment, vehicle and gear... The cache had originally been set up by FEMA, using the old stockpiles that hadn't ben sold off to surplus or destroyed post-ww2 (all those M1 SMGs, M1911A1 pistols, M1 carbines, ect...).

My T2k campaign also had USAF personnel turned into field units equipped with guntrucks to police and patrol rear-guard areas since they didn't really have aircraft to keep in the air anymore.

Oh... and they also took old parachutes and turned them into hot-air ballon like weather ballons that where used to replace spy and communications satelites.

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by bigehauser

Pictures are great, but your ACUs are slightly off in a few of those...missing the IR chit covers, and three cell writing utensil pouch on the left forearm sleeve. Also, the cuffs and their velcro should be present. The rank insignia on the chest, unless it's a two star general or more, needs to be a two by two inch square. Note that with the first pic, the bottom part of the ACU coat blouses out more, following the cut of the male Vee shape of the torso that melds into his pelvic area. Finally, a very slight, but noticeable line goes down the center of the velcro shoulder sleeve insignia areas on either shoulder.

Sorry if I offend, I just have a very intimate relationship with the Army Combat Uniform.

Something to keep in mind is the timeframe. I know next to nothing about US uniforms, but I think it bears mentioning that it's extremely unlikely for uniforms (and every other piece of equipment for that matter) developed and issued after late 1997 to appear in T2K.
In fact, I would think that once the nukes started to fly, uniforms and equipment would go backwards as manufacturing ability disappeared and old stocks would need to be drawn upon.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

... I think it bears mentioning that it's extremely unlikely for uniforms (and every other piece of equipment for that matter) developed and issued after late 1997 to appear in T2K.
In fact, I would think that once the nukes started to fly, uniforms and equipment would go backwards as manufacturing ability disappeared and old stocks would need to be drawn upon.

Agreed. This brings us back to previous discussions we have had on this forum and its predecessor about differences between the T2K timeline and the RL timeline in terms of some military weapons and equipment having faster or slower development tracks in the T2K timeline because the Cold War didn't end. There is obviously a limit however. Plus or minus five years or less in my opinion.

[natehale1971]

Originally Posted by bigehauser

I thought I recognized those.

Pictures are great, but your ACUs are slightly off in a few of those...missing the IR chit covers, and three cell writing utensil pouch on the left forearm sleeve. Also, the cuffs and their velcro should be present. The rank insignia on the chest, unless it's a two star general or more, needs to be a two by two inch square. Note that with the first pic, the bottom part of the ACU coat blouses out more, following the cut of the male Vee shape of the torso that melds into his pelvic area. Finally, a very slight, but noticeable line goes down the center of the velcro shoulder sleeve insignia areas on either shoulder.

Sorry if I offend, I just have a very intimate relationship with the Army Combat Uniform.

It's okay... i have only gotten to use reference photos that i had been able to get my hands on. i'm still looking for more reference photos to make the pictures as accurate as possible as i get to do them... but since i've not drawn anything since December 2008... it's kind of mute point.

i'm sorry for the delay in the responses... but i'm in the UK visiting the boys. having to deal with emma and her family, not allowing me to be alone with my sons... making me feel as if i've walked into a lion's den here.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by natehale1971

i'm sorry for the delay in the responses... but i'm in the UK visiting the boys. having to deal with emma and her family, not allowing me to be alone with my sons... making me feel as if i've walked into a lion's den here.

No need to apologize. Good luck with your visit. Spend as much time as you can with them, we will still be here.

[kcdusk]

A picture i took last weekend (the B&W one). Fits the theme of own artwork. Thread hijack for my photos ...

[TiggerCCW UK]

Nice pics KC.