OT: Putin's War in Ukraine

[Targan]

For the Ukrainians to manage to sink a Russian cruiser, that's quite an achievement. Fair to say that would be the most expensive individual piece of hardware the Russians have lost as a result of Putin's current folly?

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Targan

For the Ukrainians to manage to sink a Russian cruiser, that's quite an achievement. Fair to say that would be the most expensive individual piece of hardware the Russians have lost as a result of Putin's current folly?

I work with marketing teams all the time and the timing of the announcement of this stamp and the sinking, is more than you can ask for. I hope they sell 10s of millions of those stamps.







Edit the website is overloaded and they would not be available yet but giving them a link. http://pm.ukrposhta.ua/nishop.php (Ukrainian postal service)

edit 2 removed ?? from sinking. Russia admitted it.

[Bestbrian]

Originally Posted by kato13

I work with marketing teams all the time and the timing of the announcement of this stamp and the sinking?? is more than you can ask for. I hope they sell 10s of millions of those stamps.

That's gold, Jerry! GOLD!

[Raellus]

Here's what's in the latest US military aid package for Ukraine:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...age-to-ukraine

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[pmulcahy11b]

It's been confirmed on the major news channels (even Fox) -- The Moskva has sunk!

Most of crew had gotten off before it sunk.

Now, which do you believe:
1) A spontaneous fire broke out aboard her
2) The Ukrainians fired two antiship missiles at her
3) Two missiles hit her, which are what caused the fire in the first place.

[Raellus]

The irony.

I think 2 & 3 most likely.

This brief AP article provides a little history about the Moskva.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-wa...d50470e2519982

I always thought the Slava class cruisers were the most attractive warships in the Soviet navy. Their cruise missile tubes were intimidating.

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[shrike6]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

It's been confirmed on the major news channels (even Fox) -- The Moskva has sunk!

Most of crew had gotten off before it sunk.

Now, which do you believe:
1) A spontaneous fire broke out aboard her
2) The Ukrainians fired two antiship missiles at her
3) Two missiles hit her, which are what caused the fire in the first place.

I'd like to think 2 and 3 happened but the experts on the news tend to think 1. We'll see which it is.

[kcdusk]

From Russias point of view, neither option is good.
1. Yes, our crew is so incompetent we started a fire on board that was so bad, we sunk; or
2. Yes, Ukraine sunk her with an anti-ship missile.

I don't know which scenario is more damaging to admit too.