new weapon idea

[General Pain]

anyone used this in a campaign
http://www.praxis-kaergel.de/de/prax...e/geraete.html

defibrillator

What would effects rulewise be?

[sglancy12]

Originally Posted by General Pain

anyone used this in a campaign
http://www.praxis-kaergel.de/de/prax...e/geraete.html

Defilibrator

What would effects rulewise be?

Dunno. Looks pretty heavy and unwieldy. Don't think it would make a particularly effective bludgeon. Maybe if you dropped it off of a roof onto someone?

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

[General Pain]

I am offcourse talking about the electric pads...



you know from the movies.....CLEAR!!!....zappa

[sglancy12]

Originally Posted by General Pain

I am offcourse talking about the electric pads...

you know from the movies.....CLEAR!!!....zappa

And I am of course trying to imply that without a good supply of electricity to charge the paddles, it's just something else to load into the catapult and hurl at the castle walls.

But for the sake of argument, getting zapped with a defibrillator when you are NOT having a heart attack can induce heart arrhythmia and lead quickly to a full fledged heart attack. But to use it like that you'd need to be trained in it's use or just lucky.

Maybe a trained EMT or ER nurse would comment on the effect of just putting the paddles on some guys face.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by General Pain

I am offcourse talking about the electric pads...



you know from the movies.....CLEAR!!!....zappa

Juice me!

[Cdnwolf]

In Battlefield 2 the medic class can use them to either heal or kill.

[WallShadow]

My wife was a paramedic in Atlantic City: she reports nearly having had to use the defibrillator in a defensive mode once--she and her partner had moved their patient out of a rough scene into the ambulance, and some of the rough characters outside were making noise that they were going to "finish the job".

My wife grabbed an O2 tank as a bludgeon, and her partner picked up the paddles and cranked the juice up to max. The first head that stuck itself through the door was going to get a shock treatment! Luckily, the police showed up about then and allowed the ambulance to take off.

[pmulcahy11b]

I would think that the effect would be something like a stun gun on steroids.

[General Pain]

Originally Posted by sglancy12

And I am of course trying to imply that without a good supply of electricity to charge the paddles, it's just something else to load into the catapult and hurl at the castle walls.

But for the sake of argument, getting zapped with a defibrillator when you are NOT having a heart attack can induce heart arrhythmia and lead quickly to a full fledged heart attack. But to use it like that you'd need to be trained in it's use or just lucky.

Maybe a trained EMT or ER nurse would comment on the effect of just putting the paddles on some guys face.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

As I am GMing a Merc campaign I have a lot more use for this than in a normal T2K campaign...that is kinda the reason for the question

Scenario Example:

Hospital - PC is awaiking up from some sorts of trauma, don't know where he is,has machines that says "BEEP BEEP BEEEP" attached to him etc, suddenly it dawns on him/her that the cops/feds/cia/nsa/sas/mafia or whatever is after him...a cop enters the room saying...."so mr john doe...seems like you had quite a day..." - PC reaches for the defibrillator after making a succesfull observation roll (noticing the badge has blood-drops on it and the so-called cop has addidas snickers that don't resemble the rest of the outfit)....etc etc......

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by General Pain

As I am GMing a Merc campaign I have a lot more use for this than in a normal T2K campaign...that is kinda the reason for the question

Scenario Example:

Hospital - PC is awaiking up from some sorts of trauma, don't know where he is,has machines that says "BEEP BEEP BEEEP" attached to him etc, suddenly it dawns on him/her that the cops/feds/cia/nsa/sas/mafia or whatever is after him...a cop enters the room saying...."so mr john doe...seems like you had quite a day..." - PC reaches for the defibrillator after making a succesfull observation roll (noticing the badge has blood-drops on it and the so-called cop has addidas snickers that don't resemble the rest of the outfit)....etc etc......

Maybe they would make a good tool for interrogators?

[Targan]

Originally Posted by waiting4something

Maybe they would make a good tool for interrogators?

I think the tried and true car battery and jumper cables would be much more effective and easy to find.

[WallShadow]

Originally Posted by Targan

I think the tried and true car battery and jumper cables would be much more effective and easy to find.

a friend who went through Army Intelligence Interrogation school mentioned a technique that involved battery cables/clamps and a field telephone--"one ringy-dingy...two ringy-dingies..."

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by WallShadow

a friend who went through Army Intelligence Interrogation school mentioned a technique that involved battery cables/clamps and a field telephone--"one ringy-dingy...two ringy-dingies..."

Oh jeez...that an old one every infantryman knows. Particularly those who have accidentally done it to themselves or someone else...<saying no more here> The shock's not as bad as one might think, though. Of course, if you add a battery, maybe...

[jester]

Or a regular radio battery and com wire....but I know nothing about such tricks.

Or the generator from a claymore


As for the defibulator,

NO! That could quite possibly kill your target, or seriously mess them up, giving them a heartattack.

The downside, you need to turn the thing on and activate it. or let them charge before you use it.