Stuff you have because you've played Twilight:2000

[Adm.Lee]

Somewhere inside, I have one of those survivalist guys-- he must be the one that got me to play T2k and Morrow Project way back when. Sometimes, I will see stuff like camping gear, and think, "ooh, that would be useful!"-- except I never go camping or hunting, or much of anything in the wild, as I have pretty stiff allergies.

One thing that I did hang onto, just in case, you know, was a slide rule. My father and grandfather were both engineering school graduates in the days before calculators or desktop computers. Someone apparently gave Grandpap a slide rule, likely some salesman, since there is a company name stamped on the casing. Grandpap probably had one already, since this one is still in its original box, with some faded instructions still inside. I think I picked it up when we were cleaning out the house. Pop didn't want to see one of those ever again, and I had no idea how to use it. "Why not?" I figured, and stuck it in my own desk drawer, to be forgotten about. "If we ever get hit with an EMP, I could be the best-equipped nerd around!"

This weekend, my science-mad 8-year old found it (I was dumping out desk drawers, looking for something else), and wanted to know what it was. Now, he is trying to figure it out, alternating between bouts of tears and joy.

Anyone else have something really old and marginally useful?

[pmulcahy11b]

I not only have gigabytes of T2K material -- I have even more gigabytes of military stuff I researched or downloaded because I researching stuff for T2K. And then there are the huge amount of books in my book room that are either military-related or T2K-related. And the ridiculous amount of military-based facts in my head that I learned because I was researching stuff for T2K.

[shrike6]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I not only have gigabytes of T2K material -- I have even more gigabytes of military stuff I researched or downloaded because I researching stuff for T2K. And then there are the huge amount of books in my book room that are either military-related or T2K-related. And the ridiculous amount of military-based facts in my head that I learned because I was researching stuff for T2K.

What he said.

[Matt Wiser]

Ditto. And having gone to a surplus store a couple of times and actually bought some MREs. They actually had the tuna and noodle entree, and tons of the Chicken a la King one-nobody, and I mean nobody, bought those, the clerk told me. He was wondering why a college kid was buying a couple of MREs, and when I told him I did the Twilight:2000 game, he said "Oh, one of those." Seems some kids from a nearby high school did the game, and bought some MREs as well. FYI, I got the tuna and noodle meal, along with the beef patties one. Not bad in either case.

[pmulcahy11b]

I came out of the Army with lots of military gear, including several MREs. I ate the MREs within weeks of getting out, and most of the military gear dry-rotted long ago. All I have left is my Class A uniform with full decorations, one set of BDUs (neither will ever fit me again), and my jump boots. Every so often, I take out the Class A uniform and the jump boots and polish them and the brass up. Oh, and I still have my Swiss Army Knife, my dagger, my Airborne beret, a flag from Camp Casey in Korea, and the mini-binoculars I used in the Army. (I actually still have my signal flasher too, but the battery went dead long ago.) And I have a personal copy of the records of my psychiatric treatment at Walter Reed and Womack AMC on Ft. Bragg.

[headquarters]

touching on a soft spot for me here - I have tons of stuff that hardly ever get used.my wifes just rolls her eyes .

But sometimes I go camping and hunting and the preferred gear at the moment gets some fresh air.

Apart from books like "where there is no doctor" and military manuals that I picked up in the army or because of game research there is clothing,ammo,boots,stoves,NBC gear,guns,tools,rations ( Drytech - excellent Norwegian kit as long as water is available),binoculars,reloading press,bandages,shelter halfs etc etc

Now,that being said I am not one of those "right wing-long for the day when I will be proven right-teotwawki-romancers" - more of a tongue in cheek type.

But I dont hide the fact that I dream of a plot with enough space for a garden and with its own artesian well...I mean -how great would it be for the kids to have access to such facilities ?

( Although the real reason is that daddy is planning on building the "stout yeomanry" from T2K V.2.0 encounters chapter )

What puzzles me sometimes is this - if tshtf - and my situation allowed me some nights of in between chores etc - would I still play T2K ?

Or would it be a non violent,every thing is a plenty ,remembering the old days game ?

GM :"You enter the 7-11.The smell of freshly baked goods reach your nostrils..your wallet is brimming with cash..what do you do ?!"

Player " I strike up a pleasant conversation with the clerk and purchase ..lets see... "

Weird notion .I know.

[Cpl. Kalkwarf]

Originally Posted by headquarters

touching on a soft spot for me here - I have tons of stuff that hardly ever get used.my wifes just rolls her eyes .

But sometimes I go camping and hunting and the preferred gear at the moment gets some fresh air.

Apart from books like "where there is no doctor" and military manuals that I picked up in the army or because of game research there is clothing,ammo,boots,stoves,NBC gear,guns,tools,rations ( Drytech - excellent Norwegian kit as long as water is available),binoculars,reloading press,bandages,shelter halfs etc etc

Now,that being said I am not one of those "right wing-long for the day when I will be proven right-teotwawki-romancers" - more of a tongue in cheek type.

But I dont hide the fact that I dream of a plot with enough space for a garden and with its own artesian well...I mean -how great would it be for the kids to have access to such facilities ?

( Although the real reason is that daddy is planning on building the "stout yeomanry" from T2K V.2.0 encounters chapter )

What puzzles me sometimes is this - if tshtf - and my situation allowed me some nights of in between chores etc - would I still play T2K ?

Or would it be a non violent,every thing is a plenty ,remembering the old days game ?

GM :"You enter the 7-11.The smell of freshly baked goods reach your nostrils..your wallet is brimming with cash..what do you do ?!"

Player " I strike up a pleasant conversation with the clerk and purchase ..lets see... "

Weird notion .I know.

LOL probably both

[Rainbow Six]

I have a multitude of twenty year old maps and tourist info for places that I'll never visit...e.g. Iran, Yerevan in Armenia (when it was still part of the USSR and I had a daft notion that a campaign set in the Free City of Yerevan was a good idea).

[headquarters]

Originally Posted by Rainbow Six

I have a multitude of twenty year old maps and tourist info for places that I'll never visit...e.g. Iran, Yerevan in Armenia (when it was still part of the USSR and I had a daft notion that a campaign set in the Free City of Yerevan was a good idea).

In the USSR era ,there were political and "subversive jokes " floating around -if you got questioned by someone where you had come by such material people oftened answered "Radio Yerevan" .A book came out some years ago with a compilation .

I remember one ( although this isnt really regime critical )

Q :"With what countries do the USSR share a border ?"
A: "Whomever we damn please!"

Sorry for the OT.

This book could be useful to melt the ice for T2K classic campaigns when the Party come across Ivans .

There..back on topic

[Caradhras]

I am not sure it is a matter of what I have because of playing T2K or more because I am the kind of person to like T2K and hence have these things...if you know what I mean. Anyone being a youth in the 70s has to have been touched by the possibility of WW3.

Off the top of my head...

A yew English Longbow and bits (bracer/arrows/quiver etc)

A ghurka Kukri (the wicked knife)

An African tribal dagger.

(I dont camp or go trekking yet I have..)

Candles, Torches, Mountain jacket and boots, 3 man tent, orienteering compass. Swiss army knife I carry at all times.

There will be lots I forget, but apart from the useless (until the apocalypse!) information my pride and joy is my 200+ bottle wine collection

[headquarters]

Originally Posted by Caradhras

I am not sure it is a matter of what I have because of playing T2K or more because I am the kind of person to like T2K and hence have these things...if you know what I mean. Anyone being a youth in the 70s has to have been touched by the possibility of WW3.

Off the top of my head...

A yew English Longbow and bits (bracer/arrows/quiver etc)

A ghurka Kukri (the wicked knife)

An African tribal dagger.

(I dont camp or go trekking yet I have..)

Candles, Torches, Mountain jacket and boots, 3 man tent, orienteering compass. Swiss army knife I carry at all times.

There will be lots I forget, but apart from the useless (until the apocalypse!) information my pride and joy is my 200+ bottle wine collection

200 bottles of wine ...

now there is the foundation of empire right there .

imagining a world without wine or lager is pretty depressing ....

[Eddie]

I think the more accurate wording is, I have T2K because I own things like this:

[HorseSoldier]

Originally Posted by Eddie

I think the more accurate wording is, I have T2K because I own things like this:

What he said. I partly blame early exposure to T2K for resulting in my following a career path where I could justify purchases of things like an AR, a FAL, and an AK as reasonably legitimate business expenses.

I definitely blame T2K for the AK being a Polish Tantal (back before those were ubiquitous), and probably for why I wanted spiffy orange bakelite Russian mags for it instead of cheap Bulgarian plastic.

[Eddie]

That was just the newest one that my wife got me for my birthday. I didn't post any pictures of the rest. Let's just say I'm a true Tennesseean, though.

T2K didn't influence anything with me, it was purely a symptom. I've been this way since I was three.

[mikeo80]

I am more of a TMP plyer/GM vs. T2k. However, I have taken some steps to prepair for a catastrophe.

I am not so worried about the "Big Bang". I live about 8 miles from Fort Bragg, NC. If there was a nuclear exchange, I feel certain that Ft. Bragg would go "POOF"...and so would I...

I worry more about a breakdown of civilian authority due to a lesser occurance. I want to be able to sustain my wife and I for at least 30 days on our own.

Right now, I have enough clean water stored in the house to get us through those first 30-40 days. I also have enough canned food to accomplish the same. And I DO have hand crank can openers...

There are three .22 rifles with 1400 rounds and a shotgun with 400 rounds. I am not going down without a fight!

I also have over a gallon of clorox bleach to purify water. I figure that if the chaos lasts more than 20 days, I am up to my eyballs in s***. Digging a latrine would probably happen on day+3 or day+4.

I do have my old Boy Scout handbook for first aid instructions, camp stove with about 20-30 meals of fuel, plenty of blankets and warm clothing for cold weather. There is a battery operated radio with plenty of fresh batteries so that I can listen to the outside world. Also, candles and flashlights. We have also been able to stash some extra prescription meds that we both need.

I do not think this makes me paranoid or a survivalist...just more prepared than my neighbors...And, NO, the neighbors do NOT know about my preparations.

I figure that the best I can do in the event of an emergency is pull the door mat in, lock and load, and wait it out.

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by headquarters

200 bottles of wine ...

now there is the foundation of empire right there .

imagining a world without wine or lager is pretty depressing ....

There is something else I added to my stash. My wife works at a liquor store. We have enough "adult beverages" to stay drunk as skunks if the balloon goes up.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by mikeo80

I am not so worried about the "Big Bang". I live about 8 miles from Fort Bragg, NC. If there was a nuclear exchange, I feel certain that Ft. Bragg would go "POOF"...and so would I...

Ft. Bragg is a secondary target, and not a primary target. So you'd have about 30 minutes instead of 8...plenty of time to prepare...

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Ft. Bragg is a secondary target, and not a primary target. So you'd have about 30 minutes instead of 8...plenty of time to prepare...

Oh, joy....I get to know that TEOTWAWKI is on its' way...

I guess the first symptom would be the loss of power from EMP. Then some flashes off to the west as Charlotte goes bye-bye...Flashes to the north as Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill are toasted...Might also see flash from north-west as Seymour Johnson AFB with its' F-15's becomes a target. ALso to the NW would be Camp Lejune MC base.

[Cpl. Kalkwarf]

Yup a real Dragunov, Chinese NDM-86 in 7.62x54r. Every dang character I play just has to have one. Its one of the sexiest damned rifles ever made.

[Mock26]

Not inspired by Twilight 2000, but I have a large collection of primitive firestarting items, such as a fire bow, flint and steel, and a fire piston. I know how to use all three of them, though I am not proficient with the fire bow.

[General Pain]

Originally Posted by headquarters

In the USSR era ,there were political and "subversive jokes " floating around -if you got questioned by someone where you had come by such material people oftened answered "Radio Yerevan" .A book came out some years ago with a compilation .

I remember one ( although this isnt really regime critical )

Q :"With what countries do the USSR share a border ?"
A: "Whomever we damn please!"

Sorry for the OT.

This book could be useful to melt the ice for T2K classic campaigns when the Party come across Ivans .

There..back on topic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3z3...eature=related

[jester]

Several modules, several of the variants, DAMN YOU LAREN AMD FRANK! Could you leave perfect well enough alone

A few other books on such things, several bookmarked sites, and a makarov pistol I would have never had considered until one of my PCs ended up with one.

All other items, I picked up on my own or were left/given to me.

As for TEOTWAWKI supplies, sheesh! I still have several seabags of military gear I haven't opened in years, a couple of police gear and half a garage of scouting gear they left here when they upgraded.

Uh....anyone need a dozen or more coleman stoves? No, seriously.....I mean it

[Mock26]

Originally Posted by jester

Several modules, several of the variants, DAMN YOU LAREN AMD FRANK! Could you leave perfect well enough alone

A few other books on such things, several bookmarked sites, and a makarov pistol I would have never had considered until one of my PCs ended up with one.

All other items, I picked up on my own or were left/given to me.

As for TEOTWAWKI supplies, sheesh! I still have several seabags of military gear I haven't opened in years, a couple of police gear and half a garage of scouting gear they left here when they upgraded.

Uh....anyone need a dozen or more coleman stoves? No, seriously.....I mean it

What type of coleman stoves? And what about dutch ovens?

[jester]

Originally Posted by Mock26

What type of coleman stoves? And what about dutch ovens?

The stoves are coleman two burner type which take white gas or coleman fuel. They no longer used liquid fuel, they went to propane.

As for dutch ovens, lol. I just gave a new in the box one to the neighbor, and another set of unused new in the box cast iron cookware to my cousins husband a proffessional chef.

I still have a couple used that I know off and well 1/4 of the garage stacked with boxes of assorted scout gear and about three or four "chuckwagon" boxes that fit full size and small size pickup trucks. I need to go through those as well.

Heck, I have enough to outfit my own T2K field force I think.

[Eddie]

I gave my wife a dutch oven last night. With her own gas.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by Eddie

I gave my wife a dutch oven last night. With her own gas.

Besides being a violation of the Geneva Convention = TMI.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Eddie

I gave my wife a dutch oven last night. With her own gas.

Oh Eddie, you ole romantic you.

[pmulcahy11b]

Hmmm...stuff I have because I've played T2K...Oh, I have a web site.

[headquarters]

Originally Posted by mikeo80

There is something else I added to my stash. My wife works at a liquor store. We have enough "adult beverages" to stay drunk as skunks if the balloon goes up.

having a few sips to take the edge of th eend of the world sounds good..but trading the goods for services,goods and info might be good to .

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by Cpl. Kalkwarf

Yup a real Dragunov, Chinese NDM-86 in 7.62x54r. Every dang character I play just has to have one. Its one of the sexiest damned rifles ever made.

Thats cool as hell. The SVT-40 isn't bad either.