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Old 11-12-2010, 07:33 PM
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I was googling somewhat randomly and I stumbled onto this - I don't even know what it is.

http://www.offtopicbooks.com/farpg/w...hp?title=Labor

Have a look around, it has layouts for some of twilight's vehicles, and a bunch of other useful stuff in the various (hard to find) pages
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Great find, the system they are using looks familiar, but i cant place it. anyone?
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When you mouse over the rule links, it says "FARPGLight". A google search turns up something called "Fantasy Action Role Playing". A google search for that turns up relatively little So I'm guessing it's an amalgam of a couple of RPG systems (Twilight being one of them) to make a streamlined system that they (whoever made the site) used.

That's all I came up with. Maybe someone else knows more.

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Is there some way to contact the page's author/s?

It definitely looks like it has at least something to do with T2K. I saw one mention of methanol production. The pencil drawings are very reminiscent of T2K (only significantly better looking, IMHO).
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When you mouse over the rule links, it says "FARPGLight". A google search turns up something called "Fantasy Action Role Playing". A google search for that turns up relatively little So I'm guessing it's an amalgam of a couple of RPG systems (Twilight being one of them) to make a streamlined system that they (whoever made the site) used.

That's all I came up with. Maybe someone else knows more.
The FA in FARPG stands for Fire Arms.
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The following link explains "Fire Arms RPG":

http://www.offtopicbooks.com/farpg/w...=Main_Page/Old

"The Firearms: Roleplaying Game is a pen/paper style game system similar to Dungeons & Dragons and GURPS. FA:RPG aims to accurately simulate guns while still providing a quick rules-light system that lets the game move along and not get bogged down in numbers and calculations.

The rule system is a derivative d20 (famously used in Dungeons & Dragons v3.5), licensed from Wizards of the Coast and heavily modified to suit FA:RPG's needs. The setting of the game is similar to the original computer version of Firearms -- players are members of mercenary companies during a time of heavy conflict (a near-future, non-nuclear WW3)."

Italics mind for emphasis. This game seems reminiscent of T2K except for the "non-nuclear" part.

I actually played Fire Arms a fair bit around 1999-2001. Fire Arms was a multi-player computer game (a mod of Half Life) that pitted two teams together in combat on different rotating maps and was generally a sequential capture the flag style of game. It was unique in that it didn't have classes for your character but you could "buy" different fire arms and grades of body armour. The longer you survived or something, the more skills and abilities you gained and if you survived the map I think you kept them into the next round. My favourite tactic was to gain the under-rated "Forward Observer" ability and then "register" choke points on the map for off-board artillery when on defence. This allowed me to rack up impressive kills from careless enemies. (I don't recall registering actual spawn points but anything a ways away was fair game, and on a few maps I held out solo for quite a while.) There was no real background, just combat.

At any rate, evidently someone converted this computer game to a pen-and-paper format. It's not unprecedented; Everquest, Diablo 2 and World of Warcraft are all computer games that were adapted to sit-down RPG form.

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someof those aren't pencil drawings, but photos that were redone with a program that makes them look like pencil drawings. i can't remember the program that did it... but there is a company that does clipart using it.
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someof those aren't pencil drawings, but photos that were redone with a program that makes them look like pencil drawings. i can't remember the program that did it... but there is a company that does clipart using it.
I'd love to know the name of that program. I wonder if Photoshop Elements can do it...
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I'd love to know the name of that program. I wonder if Photoshop Elements can do it...

Below is and example of what a free upload service can do. http://www.dumpr.net/sketch.php


There are also freeware and shareware programs around. Look for "convert picture to pencil" or "convert picture to sketch". These programs would have more flexibility for pictures where the border distinction is not as sharp as the example I used below.

I plan to use these "sketches" (generated from pics mostly taken from the imfdb wiki) for my own equipment database.
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Below is and example of what a free upload service can do. http://www.dumpr.net/sketch.php

There are also freeware and shareware programs around. Look for "convert picture to pencil" or "convert picture to sketch". These programs would have more flexibility for pictures where the border distinction is not as sharp as the example I used below.

I plan to use these "sketches" (generated from pics mostly taken from the imfdb wiki) for my own equipment database.
Kato,

As a matter of fact, I have a camera that does that, too, although somewhat poorly. It's a simple digital point-and-shoot Olympus Fe-26. For other similar special effects, also adds a kind of super-saturation of colour, soft-focus and blackens the outside of the frame (sort of like a portrait).

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That's an interesting program I have to say. Not having a lot of knowledge of programming since the early 90's, I wonder how difficult it was to write?

Paul, have you even thought about adding pictures such as this to your listings? I believe there may be some issues with ownership of images, but if it could be done easily, quickly and above all cheaply it'd be a great enhancement to a wonderful resource.
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That's an interesting program I have to say. Not having a lot of knowledge of programming since the early 90's, I wonder how difficult it was to write?

Paul, have you even thought about adding pictures such as this to your listings? I believe there may be some issues with ownership of images, but if it could be done easily, quickly and above all cheaply it'd be a great enhancement to a wonderful resource.
I remember Paul's early site had imagines of vehicles, but J@nes got onto him about violating copyright and he had to take them down.

Kato13: Minor edit to the name of the company. I don't want anyone connected to us to appear anywhere on their radar.
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This is where a program such as the one Kato mentioned could be useful. Running pics through that has to make it a bit harder for anyone to prove copyright infringement.
Also, I'm fairly sure that if Paul was to ask for it, every last one of us would drown him in pics we've taken in the multitude of museums we've been to, exercises we been on, and private collections eyes have been laid upon.
Sifting through the torrent of pictures would be a bit of a challenge though....
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This is where a program such as the one Kato mentioned could be useful. Running pics through that has to make it a bit harder for anyone to prove copyright infringement.
I have no idea what you are talking about
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Sifting through the torrent of pictures would be a bit of a challenge though....
Something to think about -- though keeping down the size of my web pages would be a problem.

I did some experimenting and found that Photoshop Elements will do such a picture, though it is not nearly as good as the one Kato used. I'd rather have a native program, however, than a web app.
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Paul, have you ever thought of doing your website like a Wiki?
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I think I'd lose too much control over it that way. I may not have the best web site design, but it's mine.
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And it works. Yes pictures would be nice for us lazy people who can't be bothered searching, but unless there's the time and resources available, it's definitely not vital. The site has to be at the pinnacle of T2K web resources! :P
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I think I'd lose too much control over it that way. I may not have the best web site design, but it's mine.
The Wikispaces Wikis allow you to say who can or can't edit the pages. I've been using one for my superhero RP campaign. And been debating on setting up a wiki for each campaign i want to run. It's just a thought for your site... not a knock on how it is now.
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This is the sort of thing Photoshop Elements makes when using the Artistic Pencil filter. It's a Boxer MRAV:


I consider it adequate at best, but not really the level of detail I'm looking for.
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That last post actually belonged in the "Useful T2K Wiki" thread. Can a moderator move it for me?

Kato13: Done
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Hows this? Done in Paint.NET (freely available), using the Artistic -> pencil effect. Its adjustable to get more/less detail, thicker/thinner lines, etc. FYI, this took less than 30 seconds for me to do, it's easy:
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I'm starting to warm up to what I came up with. It camouflages it well from c@pyright people. I was able to play with Photoshop Elements and get almost the same effects you did, but I sort of like what I did better now.

Putting pictures on my site would take a while, and balloon the page size, though

Oh, and thanks whoever for moving my misplaced file.
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Perhaps to make pages load quicker on slow connections, have the option available to no show pictures? I know it won't change much at your end and haven't much of an idea how to actually do it...
Another option might be to simply have a link to the picture contained somewhere in the item description?

Don't mind me, I'm just chucking out ideas as they come to me.
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