if you could have any vehicle

[LT. Ox]

Ok this is intended as a thread for those that would like to have an in game vehicle.
I am thinking that is should have several qualities. It should also be in the realm of reality (ok your reality).
Mine is somewhat ala Kelly’s Hero’s and Donald Southerland, I am reminded of his traveling Sherman gypsy band.
I would like the LAV-25 C and C sans com gear. Keep the attached tent and some of the goodies.
Modify the MAG mount to a Ma –deuce. It has a lot of good things, for a Marine ride, it swims without a lot of trouble getting in or out of the pool. It has the typical multifuel engine, quick release trailer hitch and you have firing ports and good hatch arrangement.
Nice fuel consumption and storage amount and ROOM. Ok it has a high profile and the armor is not the best and you need to have a portable anti-tank weapon (I kinda like that idea thou).

all in all my pick

[StainlessSteelCynic]

I'm inclined to go for a wheeled vehicle to cut down on maintenance and scavenging for appropriate track links but I wouldn't immediately discount the M113 series (being almost ubiquitous across NATO, getting spares wouldn't be so much of a drama).

I have personal liking for the German TPz1 Fuchs, doesn't have much in the way of armament (typically just one or two 7.62mmN MG3 MGs) and while it can mount a Milan firing post, it requires the operator to be halfway out the hatch to do so.
A lot of British and US troops would be familiar with it from time in Germany and/or the issue of the derivative M93 Fox NBC recce vehicle.
But it is amphibious, will carry up to 10 troopies and can travel up to 800km on a full tank of diesel. Also, it's also much quieter than similar vehicles.

Failing that, I have a soft spot for an older British vehicle, the FV 1103 Leyland Martian, 10-ton, 6x6 artillery tractor.
It ain't fast, it ain't pretty, it runs on petrol with a really crap mileage (1.24kpl/3.5mpg) at a top speed (on road) of 56kmh/35mph and it's big (well, huge would be a better description) but it has a 12-man cab, a 10-ton winch, very good ground clearance and will tow a load of 8000kg/17,600lbs and it just looks interesting (to me anyway!)

FV1103 Leyland Martian Medium Artillery Tractor


And just in case anyone thinks the guy on the bumperbar is a real short-arse, here's a pic with an SLR against the fuel tank for scale!


All images ruthlessly pillaged from here: - http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread...nd-Regiment-RA

[Olefin]

if i had to choose - an M1 or Bradley for their ability to actually reach out and touch enemy armor - sure they also make you a target and are fuel pigs - but they give you the best chance to actually survive those chance encounters with armor that your Hummer or deuce and a half are going to be nothing but flaming debris against

[Draq]

My practical choices: m113, t-72, hmmvvw
my just because choices: bmp, obj-279, btr-152, Cadillac stingray, mi-24 hind...

[.45cultist]

Light and heavy HumVees, good old M35/M36 possibly as a gun truck. Even civilians could have an M113 or a V150, they cost in the Real World though. Saw a video from Syria which proves a T55 is not a runner up at all.

[ArmySGT.]

Westphalia Camper Van.

sleep and eat in comfort. Absolutely useless in combat, priceless as comfort on wheels....... Ridiculously common.

[mpipes]

I'ld say a M1A2, but it is such a gas guzzler, I'm not sure it would be worth the trouble. Maybe a HMMWV FSV or M3A3. There is also the LAV-75A4 or M10 on Paul's site.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

I find it more interesting to see what people would choose as vehicles than their choices for anything else in the game.
It seems to me that those players who like a general mix of play styles opt for vehicles that are multi-use (as in useful for cargo or passengers, somewhat easier on upkeep, give some level of comfort and can provide some level of protection), while those players that like more combative games go for vehicles that can "do the damage" on the enemy e.g. MICVs, MBTs, and those who seem to think in terms of rebuilding go for vehicles with a much more utilitarian function e.g. ARVs.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Westphalia Camper Van.

sleep and eat in comfort. Absolutely useless in combat, priceless as comfort on wheels....... Ridiculously common.

A T2K adventure to keep this versus refugees with looted weapons.....Hmmm.

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

A T2K adventure to keep this versus refugees with looted weapons.....Hmmm.

I'll take one of these.
http://www.tankedup.com.au/promotion...lery/hacklabs/
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[StainlessSteelCynic]

I hope you have enough supplies to keep the mini-bar stocked!

[LT. Ox]

The Driver is on the WRONG
side!

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

Light and heavy HumVees, good old M35/M36 possibly as a gun truck. Even civilians could have an M113 or a V150, they cost in the Real World though. Saw a video from Syria which proves a T55 is not a runner up at all.

Is that the one that got popped in the turret with an ATGM and tipped it's hat?

[raketenjagdpanzer]

For civilian settings? A garbage truck. Ditch the hydraulics, do some face-hardening of available mild steel (like from dumpsters and whatnot), make it splinter and small-caliber resistant, loads of room in the back, durable as hell. Stinks to high heaven but if you clean it out and pad it out you've got a 20-passenger personnel carrier. And it absolutely has the suspension and horsepower to carry the additional armor (esp. once you ditch the hydraulics) and so on.

Military? Stryker or LAV. Possibly M113 although throwing or breaking a track would be a constant worry. If I'd established a landhold/firebase/cantonment somewhere, an Abrams or a Stingray plus a few trucks as a QRF.

[Olefin]

keeping an M1 going is definitely an exercise in finding or making a hell of a lot of fuel

we managed to obtain some from the Soviets (you would be amazed how quickly a guy driving a tanker truck full of fuel from Ploesti surrenders after the BMP and BTR escorting him get turned into flaming debris) and also by hiring ourselves out (i.e. town needing help against marauders who was very glad to exchange alcohol fuel for said marauders getting turned into assorted body parts and burning T-55 in northern Poland on our way back to Omega) as well as one very lucky series of rolls we made to find a buried tank full of diesel in what was supposed to be a destroyed oilfield/refinery complex

definitely provided a lot of opportunities for our GM with how often we ran low on fuel

[pmulcahy11b]

I'd want something that can transport a decent amount of people/stuff, has parts compatibility with a lot of vehicles already out there, can be easily modded to do something about the armor, and can have retrofitted weapon mounts. For all this, I say...

...the M577. It's a decent compromise between cargo hauler and armored vehicle. Just needs some work first.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I'd want something that can transport a decent amount of people/stuff, has parts compatibility with a lot of vehicles already out there, can be easily modded to do something about the armor, and can have retrofitted weapon mounts. For all this, I say...

...the M577. It's a decent compromise between cargo hauler and armored vehicle. Just needs some work first.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0567165/

[Olefin]

a gun truck can be a very good vehicle - agree with you there for sure - and considering the background it could have a very big range of possible weapons (all the way up to helicopter rocket pods if you look at what was used in Libya when they improvised mounts on trucks there)

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

Is that the one that got popped in the turret with an ATGM and tipped it's hat?

Yep! Be sure to get an enhanced armor package.

[LT. Ox]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

For civilian settings? A garbage truck. Ditch the hydraulics, do some face-hardening of available mild steel (like from dumpsters and whatnot), make it splinter and small-caliber resistant, loads of room in the back, durable as hell. Stinks to high heaven but if you clean it out and pad it out you've got a 20-passenger personnel carrier. And it absolutely has the suspension and horsepower to carry the additional armor (esp. once you ditch the hydraulics) and so on.

Military? Stryker or LAV. Possibly M113 although throwing or breaking a track would be a constant worry. If I'd established a landhold/firebase/cantonment somewhere, an Abrams or a Stingray plus a few trucks as a QRF.

Interesting thought. I had not really given consideration to what I might use at or around 1998 to 2000 here in the states and since I am thinking about a game in that time frame here goes;
1. An older Brinks armored van that is sitting in a junk yard somewhere and has a Restorable engine, IE pre electronic ignition.
2. Any one of the "surplus” armored cars in use by law enforcement
3. Above Garbage truck.
4. Dump truck "Diesel" mod.
5. above recreational .
Hmmm I am going to spend some more time on this.

[Olefin]

Heck if you are here in the US you could have almost anything you can think of - sheer variety of vehicles here, combined with what collectors have that is still operational (Stuart tank anyone?), means you could have just about anything - and the idea of bank armored cars being turned into APC's is one that is basically canon

they are in both the the Urban Guerilla module and A River Runs Thru It in Challenge - so having a character in a US setting start out with an armored bank car turned into an APC is completely believeable

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by LT. Ox

Interesting thought. I had not really given consideration to what I might use at or around 1998 to 2000 here in the states and since I am thinking about a game in that time frame here goes;
1. An older Brinks armored van that is sitting in a junk yard somewhere and has a Restorable engine, IE pre electronic ignition.
2. Any one of the "surplus” armored cars in use by law enforcement
3. Above Garbage truck.
4. Dump truck "Diesel" mod.
5. above recreational .
Hmmm I am going to spend some more time on this.

One of the competitors to the MRAP uses garbage truck componants to ease city costs, but most get "free" MRAPs that use the more costly and rarer Family of Tactical Vehicle parts or what ever the new "M" series trucks are called.

[LT. Ox]

Back in the day I sat in on more than a few roundtable discussions with local and state Law enforcement people. (Some of them were after hours and admittedly during the relaxation period)
The talk was “what do we use if" I will not herein go into the ifs as they are not all politically correct.
But first among the solutions were the armored car idea, having firing ports and small arms protection and being immediately available to us (Sheriff’s Office) through state law of commandeering any private vehicle in times of emergence.
Next was a big jump in time, the National Guard equipment. Man what a mess dealing with the rules of engagement.
On down the line was the privately held military equipment. I learned just what and how good some of the stuff we have here in Western Colorado USA is!!!
Oh well memory lane. That was 1985 86.

[Ancestor]

During the Twilight War (V.1) and shortly thereafter I concur with your LAV-25. Come Howling Wilderness, however, only a Doof Wagon will suffice:

http://www.businessinsider.com/mad-m...re-made-2015-5

[LT. Ox]

I have not yet seen this but now I have got to.
You may get a notice from my Wife’s attorney as to intent to sue

[Ancestor]

Originally Posted by LT. Ox

I have not yet seen this but now I have got to.
You may get a notice from my Wife’s attorney as to intent to sue

I'm a judge advocate by branch so I can take it! See the movie, you will not be disappointed!

[CDAT]

I think something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nug5FZgxuk
Just make sure it is the unarmored version.

[rcaf_777]

Mine Picks

[LT. Ox]

I may have ta shoot you.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by LT. Ox

I may have ta shoot you.

The Weinermobile may have possibilities.....no I don't have a straight face.