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Hi to all,
This is my first post on the Twilight 2000 Forum, although I'm not entirely new to the T2K game. I typed up "the few European Countries" orbats found on Bryn Monnery's website about five years ago. I’ve been looking at Trooper’s list of Norwegian nuclear targets and have a few comments. According to Trooper’s Nordic Sourcebook Norway was targeted by seven nuclear strikes as well as receiving a few tactical nukes up north. Norwegian Nuclear Targets Oslo 1 Mt Political and industrial centre Tromso 100 kt naval base. Town destroyed. Drammen 100 kt ground burst Petroleum industry. Town destroyed Harstad 100 kt naval base. Town destroyed. Bergen 100 kt naval base and harbour Stavanger 100 kt petroleum industry Horten 100 kt naval base. Northern Norway badly damaged from tactical nukes and conventional warfare. Some points. Norwegian Energy Production Almost all of Norway's electricity generation comes from hydroelectric facilities. In 2004 hydropower accounted for 99 percent of total electricity generation. Norway's hydroelectric infrastructure consists of many small plants. The largest has an installed capacity of 1,240 megawatts (MW), or 4 percent of national installed capacity. Norway's reliance on hydropower leaves the country vulnerable to climatic fluctuations which require imports to meet seasonal shortages, but it also opens the possibility of exports during wetter conditions. Norway has the potential to increase hydro-generated power through refurbishing existing facilities, as well as constructing new hydropower plants. But most of Norway’s waterways have been developed and any new facilities would likely consist of small developments. Norway has also actively looked into conventional gas fired power plants and wind power to supplement its hydro electrical capacity. Oil & Gas Reserves: All of Norway’s oil and gas reserves are located offshore on the Norwegian Continental Shelf (NCS), which is divided into three sections: the North Sea, the Norwegian Sea and the Barents Sea. The bulk of Norway's oil production occurs in the North Sea, with smaller amounts in the Norwegian Sea. There is no current production and little exploration activity in the Barents Sea, although it is believed that the Barents Sea could contain sizable oil and gas reserves. As of 2005 there are about 60 oil and natural gas discoveries that are still undeveloped in the North Sea. Because Norway shares the North Sea region with the UK, both nations coordinate efforts when dealing with reserves that straddle the division of each countries' respective zone. Norwegian oil & gas fields in North Sea Albuskjell oilfield (decommissioned) Asgard gasfield Balder oilfield Brage oil field, Bream oilfield Brisling oilfield Cod oilfield (decommissioned) Eldfisk oilfield Ekofisk oilfield (Major) Embla oilfield Frigg gasfield (Major) Grane oil & gas field (Major) Gullfaks oilfield (Major) Gyda oilfield Heidrun oilfield (Major) Heimdal gasfield Hild gasfield Hod oilfield Murchison oilfield Oseberg oil & gas field (Major) Sleipner oil & gas field Snorre oilfield Statfjord oil & gasfield (Major) Troll oil & gasfield (Major) Tor oilfield Ula oilfield Valhall oilfield Oil Pipelines & Refineries There is an extensive network of subsea oil and gas pipelines linking Norwegian offshore platforms with onshore terminals. The vast majority of Norwegian oil is brought onshore through the Grane, Oseberg and Troll pipelines with terminals at Mongstad and Stura, while the remaining offshore production is brought ashore via shuttle tankers through the ports of Karsto, Tjeldbergodden and Kollsnes. In addition the Norpipe connects the Ekokisk oil field system to an oil terminal in Teesside England. Norway has oil refineries at Mongstad and Tjeldbergodden. Both refineries and the oil pipeline terminal at Mongstad were noticeable missed by Soviet nuclear strikes in Trooper’s Nordic sourcebook. Therefore Norway is almost self sufficient in electricity production and most of Norway’s oil infrastructure has survived the nuclear attack. Although I’m under no doubt that Soviet forces tried to destroy or sabotage Norwegian oil production facilities in the aftermath of the nuclear strikes, the possibility exists that some or even most of it remains fully functional. We know that the British are covertly operating a few oil platforms in the North Sea even with much of their infrastructure destroyed. If Norway is largely self sufficient in electrical power and is operating its oil industry at 10-20% of pre-war levels, then there is a strong base for the establishment of military power in the region and for the long term economic recovery of Scandinavia and Northern Europe without French help. |
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Hey welcome aboard and thanks for the input, some of that will be really useful for my maps.
For a long time I have been mulling the damage done to refineries by saboteurs, conventional explosives, accidents and general wear and tear. Given the powder keg that most refineries are, I think that a GM can say that anywhere from 15-75% of capacity could be taken out without nukes. I have always thought that Spetsnaz units in the continental US (and throughout the Allied world) would have focused on ports, rail lines, and refineries. |
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Welcome to the board.
I like the way you say "the Twilight 2000 forum".....like it's the only one... ![]() It is the best IMHO..... anyway good input..
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There is actually pretty decent material for Norway in the Boomer. Quick glancing even revealed one "extra" nuclear strike to Norwegian soil. Ramsund ? kt Naval Base |
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I’d still say that a fair part of the Norwegian power grid is operational or repairable in the south at least, after all by its nature Hydropower stations are generally well dispersed and located away from major population centres. Also if your entire power grid is hydro based there would be a lot of industry devoted to maintaining it, and plenty of parts available. A lot of the smaller southern cities and town in Norway seem to have survived, and with a relatively functional and renewable electricity supply the Norwegians would have a bit of a head start on the rest. Also the Norwegian oil industry and shipping industry is huge considering the relative small size of Norway. A lot of infrastructure must have survived and I think it is possible that Norway has some operational oil platforms in the North Sea. Sweden may also be relevant here, as it survived in better shape than most other countries and there must be a lot of industry still functioning. Quote:
I’d say Norwegian oil platforms were of secondary importance to the Soviets in the early part of the war given their location, and their location may also have been a factor in their survival. Remember this area is part of the GIUK Gap, which had the most intensive NATO ASW and anti-ship resources in existence. In the earlier part of the war I would say two USN Carrier Battle Groups were roaming these waters, in addition to other US naval and air defence assets stretching across the Atlantic from North America to Norway and Britain. There were also considerable British, German, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch and Canadian naval and air forces in the area which were pretty much tailored to hunt Soviet naval and bomber penetrations into this region. It probably was a slaughterhouse for Soviet naval and air forces in the earlier stages of the war. However this is not to say that oil platforms were not targeted or damaged in the general melee, but it is possible that many survived in functional or repairable condition. We know the British have reactivated a few oil platforms in the North Sea and we know that some British Marines are still in Norway, and I would say British forces are actively cooperating with the Norwegians in reopening as many as they can. |
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This may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._the_North_Sea
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Thanks for that list General although I did earlier give a list of Norwegian offshore oil & gas fields.
Most Norwegian oil platforms are in the North Sea/Norwegian Sea which is south of the GIUK naval line, and to an extent are sheilded by it. Considering the intensive NATO naval and air facilities and forces that are spread across the region oil platforms would be at best secondary targets for Soviet forces penetrating this area. NATO AEW, ASW, Anti-Ship and air defence resources would prove a formidable barrier for any sortie into the North/Norwegian Sea and UK Atlantic Margin, and hunting oil platforms may not have been a luxury that the Soviet forces could afford at any period of the war. |
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