Philippine

[Gelrir]

Instead of the "usual" Brown Bess muskets and Kentucky rifles, here are some weapons made with minimal workshops:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...mboanga-seige/

"The World's Fighting Shotguns" by Thomas Swearengen has many, many more of these (and he's only looking at shotguns). Some are quite wacky; many are made to mimic features of 'real' weapons.

Various zip guns and odd, homemade weapons will continue to accrue as long as cartridge ammunition is available (or can be reloaded).

In my current campaign, there are a lot of very simple, unrifled 40mm launchers. The rounds they fire are mostly made using old training rounds, propelled by a .38 Special blank; being unrifled, they don't have the nice fuzing options. Instead, they just go off after a delay of a few seconds (3 to 8, depending on who made them, quality of manufacture, etc.). Range is also much shorter than the 20th Century originals. Explosive charge is either black powder or simple early explosives.

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Michael B.

[Project_Sardonicus]

Interesting stuff, though one could picture the Team Members just hunkering down and waiting for their foes to blow themselves up, without firing a shot.

Though it's interesting than in many ways the most difficult and expensive piece of technology to develop in terms of weapons would be the bullet themselves.

During World War 2 when most countries urgently needed automatic weapons fast, very fast. The Brits came up with the Sten, the US the Greasegun and the Russians a plethora of similar weapons. Since then the Kalashnikov has joined this range of weapons that can be knocked up in a garrage.

So Krell and so forth may well be coming up with a variety of simple weapons to take advantage of captured ammunition.

Another thing is a future empire may well come up with a weapon that uses limited ammunition and is deliberately less effective. The loss of a few militia is worth it to prevent bandits or rebels getting their hands on ammunition and building weapons around them. One soldier selling an allocation of 50-100 bullets could equip a good platoon for one strike, to gain even more.

The British Empire favoured this for a while,

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/brit/gr...ice-gun-e.html


A weapon that holds one round, is unweidly and who's ammunition was apparently too underpowered to do much more than wound. Enabling the local royal professional police to equip unreliable militia with a weapon that looked mean, could be used for shooting up the locals without causing a massacre and would be hopeless outmatched against a foe armed with state of the art; webleys, enfields and possibly even dreaded Lewis guns. If need be a futuristic version could be equipped with slugs if need be in a Morrow Project based emergency.

This provides a modern way of equipping a foe with out wiping your team in their first encounter. Of course such a foe would probably soon break out rather more sophisticated weapons for their elite troops, this might provide a shock.

[Project_Sardonicus]

Interesting stuff, though one could picture the Team Members just hunkering down and waiting for their foes to blow themselves up, without firing a shot.

Though it's interesting than in many ways the most difficult and expensive piece of technology to develop in terms of weapons would be the bullet themselves.

During World War 2 when most countries urgently needed automatic weapons fast, very fast. The Brits came up with the Sten, the US the Greasegun and the Russians a plethora of similar weapons. Since then the Kalashnikov has joined this range of weapons that can be knocked up in a garrage.

So Krell and so forth may well be coming up with a variety of simple weapons to take advantage of captured ammunition.

Another thing is a future empire may well come up with a weapon that uses limited ammunition and is deliberately less effective. The loss of a few militia is worth it to prevent bandits or rebels getting their hands on ammunition and building weapons around them. One soldier selling an allocation of 50-100 bullets could equip a good platoon for one strike, to gain even more.

The British Empire favoured this for a while,

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/brit/gr...ice-gun-e.html


A weapon that holds one round, is unweidly and who's ammunition was apparently too underpowered to do much more than wound. Enabling the local royal professional police to equip unreliable militia with a weapon that looked mean, could be used for shooting up the locals without causing a massacre and would be hopeless outmatched against a foe armed with state of the art; webleys, enfields and possibly even dreaded Lewis guns. If need be a futuristic version could be equipped with slugs if need be in a Morrow Project based emergency.

This provides a modern way of equipping a foe with out wiping your team in their first encounter. Of course such a foe would probably soon break out rather more sophisticated weapons for their elite troops, this might provide a shock.

[Project_Sardonicus]

Whilst finding the Greener shotgun I found this monstrosity.

I can't believe it's recoil wouldn't be extremely painful for the strongest foe, who'd still need to rest it on something.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/rus/ks-23-e.html


But this bad boy packs a special solid vehicle stopping round that I'm guessing could punch through the relatively thin armour on a MP vehicle, damaging the engine or blowing off a wheel.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by Project_Sardonicus

Whilst finding the Greener shotgun I found this monstrosity.

I can't believe it's recoil wouldn't be extremely painful for the strongest foe, who'd still need to rest it on something.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/rus/ks-23-e.html


But this bad boy packs a special solid vehicle stopping round that I'm guessing could punch through the relatively thin armour on a MP vehicle, damaging the engine or blowing off a wheel.

The Russian arms system works as you can tell differently though I will argue more effectively for mass production.

When they make barrels, they make barrels all one length. So a 5.45mm barrel is made on a rifling machine for all weapons that will be chambered for that cartridge. The barrel is then cut to the length for the weapon at the factory. So one batch of barrels is made then divvied up to go to the MG line, rifle line, and pistol line.

So in this case it appears some was left over from producing 23mm auto cannons for AAA guns like the ZPU-23-4. cut to length and turned down you have a shotty barrel somewhere between 10 gauge and 8 gauge.