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Have any of you ever sat through all of making-of features of the Lord Of the Rings trilogy? (I think it's from the The Two Towers bonus content) There's an interesting bit about assembling the "Rohirrim" for the shoot that could provide some insight into this topic. The production company put out an all-call for experienced riders to serve as extras in the film. A couple hundred Kiwis answered the call. They were set up with costumes and props and the rest is celluloid history. I can see a similar thing happening in T2K, but with real, modern weapons instead of rubber medieval ones.
Anyway, in a T2K scenario, cavalry units would be raised in a couple of ways. First, all-volunteer units like Olefin's Kenyan example. Second, levies with requisitioned horses. I can see some, more independent-minded horse owners balking at turning their prized horseflesh over to the government/military, and you might see anti-gov't mounted partisan groups forming as a result. Think about someone like Cliven Bundy and his ilk in the U.S.A.
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in bicycle vs horse calvary, bicycles win hands done you only have one (rider) vs two (rider and animal)
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Good point, but bicycles are pretty much road-bound whereas horses are not. Advantage horse-cav.
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For most of Australia's history, the army has been purely a volunteer force made up primarily of infantry - every single soldier actually WANTED to be there. Some cavalry units existed, and there was authorisation for even greater numbers, however the sticking point was cavalrymen had to provide their own horses....
On a different, but related note... https://www.awm.gov.au/wartime/44/page54_bou https://www.historyhit.com/the-role-...world-war-one/ https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/wo...ne-horses.html https://youtu.be/7yuZ4vowQJc
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Pulled this from some old Cavalry Journal articles...interesting!
Horses require 12 pounds of grain per day (mostly corn). A wagon, pulled by a 6-mule team can haul roughly 2,000lbs. Wearing pack saddles, the same 6 mules can carry only 200lbs each, total of 1,200 pounds. Mules require 10lbs of grain per day. Terry's Column (Little Bighorn Campaign) numbered some 1,131 personnel and 1,694 horses and mules required eight tons of supply per day, carried by 150 wagons...even when rolling four abreast, the wagon column stretched over a half mile.
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Good point - Travel Move for bicycles is 65/15 vs mounted max 40/40 (horse forced marched) or 30/30 (mule force marched). So if you have access to roads bicycles have an edge in speed and need less food (rider only) and some upkeep but lose out with load (only what the rider can carry vs what mount can carry) and need (minimal) maintenance - as the Twilight world progresses and roads deteriorate the balance will presumably shift... I've got some notes for a bicycle article and motorcycles in the Twilight World need their own treatment but still thinking it over Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I did a very short post on World War I motorcycles (stats, no analysis) on my blog in 2017.
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Thanks will check it out - there's an article I found somewhere on WW2 Army motorcycles that was decent will try and dig it out and link if I get a chance... Edit: found it here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by therantingsavant; 04-05-2019 at 08:23 PM. |
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I've got some notes for a bicycle article and motorcycles in the Twilight World need their own treatment but still thinking it over Before we make rash decisions let do some reading http://www.combatreform.org/atb.htm https://www.landroverweb.com/mountai...ooper-shop.htm https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2...on-two-wheels/ https://www.bikeshophub.com/blog/201...-that-and-more
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Only 50 lbs /22 kgs for an infantryman?
In what reality is that? My webbing alone was usually about that heavy!
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