2000 vs. 2013 vs. 2020 vs. 20??

[James Langham]

Perhaps slightly off topic but if anyone knows an RPG in need of a writer please point them in my direction... Will quite happily write for the kudos (and ideally a copy of the product) right now.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by Bullet Magnet

Depending on what district you might be talking about, some of those teachers get paid very nicely, then add in the bennies like medical coverage and so on.

I've been a public school teacher for 11 years. My annual salary has decreased in each of the last six years. I now make less than I did when I first started. And my employer-subsidized medical insurance plan gets worse every year. This year, I've had to pay over $5000 out of pocket for medical expenses, and I'm a relatively healthy guy. It's worse in some states than it is in others. Arizona, my home state, is consistently ranked around 48 (out of 50) for education spending. Unfortunately, in my country, education is less respected, less valued, and less well-funded than the military. Truthfully, interacting with teenagers is the least painful part of my job.

That's why I prefer the v1.0 timeline- it reminds me of the simple good vs. evil worldview of my late Cold War youth.

[Tegyrius]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I've been a public school teacher for 11 years. My annual salary has decreased in each of the last six years. I now make less than I did when I first started. And my employer-subsidized medical insurance plan gets worse every year. This year, I've had to pay over $5000 out of pocket for medical expenses, and I'm a relatively healthy guy. It's worse in some states than it is in others. Arizona, my home state, is consistently ranked around 48 (out of 50) for education spending. Unfortunately, in my country, education is less respected, less valued, and less well-funded than the military. Truthfully, interacting with teenagers is the least painful part of my job.

This is more the salary model I had in mind with my original comment, unfortunately. And I'm going to link back to this thread the next time some ignorant git starts going off about RPG publishers being staffed by money-grubbing one-percenters.

- C.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I've been a public school teacher for 11 years. My annual salary has decreased in each of the last six years. I now make less than I did when I first started. And my employer-subsidized medical insurance plan gets worse every year.

Wait, what? How can they do that to you? Man, if you can stomach living without guns you should move here. We value our teachers and Australia has universal health care (which hasn't resulted in our economy collapsing or a communist takeover or whatever other loony, scare-mongering reasons your right wing legislators use against bringing in affordable healthcare for all Americans).

[Cdnwolf]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I've been a public school teacher for 11 years. My annual salary has decreased in each of the last six years. I now make less than I did when I first started. And my employer-subsidized medical insurance plan gets worse every year. This year, I've had to pay over $5000 out of pocket for medical expenses, and I'm a relatively healthy guy. It's worse in some states than it is in others. Arizona, my home state, is consistently ranked around 48 (out of 50) for education spending. Unfortunately, in my country, education is less respected, less valued, and less well-funded than the military. Truthfully, interacting with teenagers is the least painful part of my job.

That's why I prefer the v1.0 timeline- it reminds me of the simple good vs. evil worldview of my late Cold War youth.

WOW in Ontario Canada, the teachers pension plan was so overflowing with cash they bought one of the NHL richest hockey teams.

[Bullet Magnet]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I've been a public school teacher for 11 years. My annual salary has decreased in each of the last six years. I now make less than I did when I first started. And my employer-subsidized medical insurance plan gets worse every year. This year, I've had to pay over $5000 out of pocket for medical expenses, and I'm a relatively healthy guy. It's worse in some states than it is in others. Arizona, my home state, is consistently ranked around 48 (out of 50) for education spending. Unfortunately, in my country, education is less respected, less valued, and less well-funded than the military. Truthfully, interacting with teenagers is the least painful part of my job.

That's why I prefer the v1.0 timeline- it reminds me of the simple good vs. evil worldview of my late Cold War youth.

Yes, but please note in my original post about this, I said SOME teachers. I'm in WI, which you may recall had that big thing about the teacher contracts not long ago. During that time, here we got some idea of what they get paid up here.
Also, not long after, we got to hear about teachers in Chicago. The average salary there is twice what the average is for everyone else from what I saw.

Now, I'll give you credit for doing a job I don't think I could do. At its best, I probably could, but as it is, I have the feeling I wouldn't last a full year. You are right that teachers are less respected than the military in this country, and that says a lot.
My own experience in school was one that made the 1st edition T2K universe seem almost bright and cheery. I know it wasn't the fault of (all) the teachers. Many of the gripes I have about that I've found are because of policies from the ivory tower. I could go on for a long time about this, but I think we all come to this board for other things rather than my rantings about this subject.

[Cdnwolf]

Ummm what was the original topic in this thread about again???