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08-27-2015, 01:38 PM
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PzJgd-38 Hetzer
I have also always liked the Hetzer. Something... compactly competent about it.
Hetzers were built Post WW2 by Czechoslovakia and sold to Austria as the G-13, which fielded them to the early 1970s. Some could be unearthed in a warehouse and revived in 1996/7 as reserves for the Austrian Army... Uncle Ted Last edited by unkated; 08-27-2015 at 01:39 PM. Reason: Spelling Correction 
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08-27-2015, 04:59 PM
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08-27-2015, 06:42 PM
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The Swiss also bought 158 of them which served into the 1970's, renaming them as the G-13 (any designated G-13 definitely served with the Swiss).
The Soviets regunned them with their 76.2mm but otherwise kept them basically the same. The Czechs converted some of theirs by replacing the gun with a flame thrower, although Hitler had ordered this conversion in November 1944 so it's unknown if the Czechs did it themselves, or just picked up a few which had already been done. From what I can see though, it doesn't look like too many other alterations were made to the armament. There is no indication I can find of Austria having any after the war (I suspect unkated confused them with Switzerland). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzer http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Hetzers_G13.pdf
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08-27-2015, 06:47 PM
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Hey Leg, don't forget the British A39 Tortoise heavy assault tank - it only weighed 79ton... only!
 I too am a fan for the Hetzer, like unkated mentioned, there seems to be something about it. Competent is a good word, it's no too fussy in its design, uncluttered and still compact. Unsurprisingly it was a very good ambush weapon even though the troops didn't particularly like it - too cramped. Hey unkated, did you mean Switzerland instead of Austria? LT. Ox, the G13 was armed with a 75mm KwK 40 main gun, the same gun as mounted on the Panzer IV late model G and H & J models as well as on the StuG III F & G models and the StuG IV. AKA the 7.5cm KwK 40. The Swiss also removed the remote MG installation from the roof and placed the commander opposite to the German Hetzer (i.e. Swiss placed commander on the left, gunner & loader on the right). The Swiss also had a field telephone installed on the rear for external comms. They got 158 G13 assault guns as well as some recovery vehicle models. They also modernized some of the assault guns to G13D standard which included replacing the petrol engine with a diesel model. However the interesting item is that the Czechoslovaks fielded a large number under the designation ST-I. They were either repaired or new build Hetzers and carried the original 7.5cm KwK39 main gun or were unarmed and used as training vehicles (called the ST-III). Some of the ST-IIIs had a superstructure built on while others retained the basic lines of the Hetzer. They built/rebuilt 50 to the ST-III spec for a total of 299 vehicles (249 ST-I & 50 ST-III). The Czechoslovaks used them till the mid 1950s and not much is known about them afterwards although they are believed to have been scrapped. For game purposes however, there's no reason why they couldn't have kept them in their war reserve. Apparently Israel was interested in buying 60 or 70 ST-I vehicles but they were too pricey, about twice the price of a Sherman tank, so they never bothered and got Shermans instead. Crappy photo but the only one I could find... ST-III  Although this drawing makes it clearer. ST-III  What's intriguing though, is that apparently the Czechoslovaks exported eleven ST-I vehicles & spares to Guinea, West Africa between 1959 & 1961. The other interesting thing about the Hetzer, it formed the basis for for the WW2 Germans' first purpose made, fully tracked, APC, the Vollkettenaufklarer 38(t) "Kätzchen" AKA full-tracked reconnaissance vehicle 38(t) "Kitten". It would carry up to 8 troops and act in a similar role as the White Scout Car (or in modern terms, an M3 Bradley CFV without the 25mm and TOW). Kätzchen wooden mock-up showing general height.  One of the working prototypes  As it probably would have looked in service 
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08-27-2015, 06:49 PM
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Well it looks like I dawdled too long getting my reply posted!
Beaten to the punch by Legbreaker - curse you! 
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08-27-2015, 06:52 PM
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I may have beaten you to the punch, but yours has more info - you missed the flame throwers though!
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#67
08-31-2015, 04:13 PM
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As a T2K vehicle, it would be something like this: (hmmm should be attached)
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08-31-2015, 04:41 PM
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09-01-2015, 03:34 PM
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In addition to the Hetzer, the chassis carried SP AA guns, SP artillery and SPAT (some versions of Marder). Katzchen was another derivation. Uncle Ted
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09-01-2015, 03:37 PM
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09-01-2015, 05:42 PM
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Interestingly, a British company was looking for a production licence for the vz35 just before the Germans began their occupation of Czechoslovakia. Another interesting point, there was also a variant built for Afghanistan.
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09-01-2015, 05:57 PM
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09-01-2015, 09:08 PM
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09-02-2015, 02:40 PM
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What is the rule system(s) for statting out vehicles?
What are the pertinent rules and formulas for building the stats for various vehicles for the V1 and 2.2 systems any way? As much as people come over here asking for stats on weapons and vehicles seems like some tutorials are I order.
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#76
09-02-2015, 03:29 PM
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Weapons rules are the most straight froward; the formulas used are presented in the V2 Infantry Weapons Guide, spread out across two pages.
The key values you need are Bullet weight Receiver type (Single shot, Bolt action, lever action, pump action, semi auto, full auto, Single action revolver, double action revolver) Weapon weight Weapon length Muzzle velocity Rate of fire (for automatic weapons) Uncle Ted
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09-02-2015, 03:34 PM
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Fire, Fusion,& Steel for Traveller the New Era has them as well.
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09-02-2015, 05:14 PM
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09-02-2015, 10:00 PM
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 no problem Paul, I didn't know anyone had done something on the Arab-Israeli wars so while I'm naturally curious to see the doc, it doesn't have to be "right now!" 
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09-03-2015, 01:10 AM
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People pleasing
It is in his nature.
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09-03-2015, 12:59 PM
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09-03-2015, 02:35 PM
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I always liked the Universal Carrier, aka the Bren Gun Carrier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Carrier There are many more practical vehicles, I know...
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09-03-2015, 03:51 PM
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War is the absence of reason. But then, life often demands unreasonable responses. - Lucian Soulban, Warhammer 40000 series, Necromunda Book 6, Fleshworks Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com Last edited by pmulcahy11b; 09-03-2015 at 03:52 PM. Reason: Damn sentence didn't make any sense!
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09-03-2015, 04:58 PM
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09-03-2015, 05:13 PM
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Hey Paul, my apologies for being the bearer of bad news, but the link for the WW2 pdf is not working
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09-04-2015, 01:12 PM
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SPA-Viberti AS.42 Sahariana
SPA-Viberti AS.42 Sahariana
WW2 Italian reconnaisaance car, rather like an oversized dune buggy. Used the same chassis as the AB 41 armoured car, including its four-wheel steering, specifically for desert operations, primarily in a reconnaissance role.   Fast, long-ranged, maneuverable, armed with MGs and/or 20mm autocannon, or even a 47mm cannon. The Sahariana engine located in the rear which gave it enough space in the middle of the hull to accommodate up to five fully equipped men and weapons, though the mission crew seldom exceeded three or four. The open compartment's only overhead protection was a waterproof canvas sheet. The AS 42 had front and rear internal fuel tanks of 200 litres each with an additional 24 externally mounted jerrycans holding 80 litres of water and 400 litres of fuel. The AS 42 Sahariana's performance was very good, but it was expensive to manufacture and the vehicle was mechanically complicated. Seats 4-5. On of the best high-mobility vehicles produced before the HumVee. And I love the big tires. Uncle Ted
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