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Recalled reservists of the 24th Motor Rifle Division by their OT-810 APC before invading Austria, Summer 1997. (from my Czechoslovak Vehicle Guide)
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That's where I'd seen it before! I should have realized. Thanks, Chico.
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Check out ADAM SOMETHING'S YouTube channel for photos of this...
The Russians are sending a train loaded with T-62 MBTs to Ukraine! I wonder how much ammo they have stockpiled? There's a certain irony in the fact that Russia is now using a tank on the battlefield that was introduced to the world BEFORE I WAS BORN! |
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First, on page 26, the caption refers to the Ondova T-72M1 as an Ondava. Second, another vehicle that could be added is the OT-810D, which was the OT-810 with an 82mm vz. 59 (M-59A) recoilless rifle (which Paul has here). 280 of them were converted from the APCs in the 1960s. At least 4 are known to survive today in Czech Republic. Sort of a third thing but not really, the OT-810C was also notable for having an enclosed passenger cabin, so infantry were a little less vulnerable than in the Sd.Kfz 251.
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Here's an article about the T-60 deployment Swag told us about a few days ago.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-ukraine-front "Quantity has a quality all its own." -Josef Stalin We shall see... I think it's interesting how Soviet/Russian army tactics changed since WW2. Leaving aside artillery for a moment, in WW2, most attacks started with infantry. Early in the war, these infantry often attacked in human waves. Later, infiltration tactics were utilized to good effect. Once a breakthrough was achieved, tank formations would rush into the breach to begin the deep penetration, exploitation phase. It could be costly, in terms of infantry casualties, but it worked. After WW2, during the Cold War, all Soviet infantry became Motor Rifles, and rode into battle in BTRs and/or BMPs. The days of pure infantry attacks seem to have passed. It wasn't broke, so why did the Soviet high command decide to fix it? Did they suddenly start caring about friendly casualties? Since the end of the Cold War (Part 1), first in Grozny, then in the attack on Kiev, the Russians have sent armored forces into MOUT without dismounted infantry support, both times with disastrous results for the attackers. I haven't read much about Russian tactics in the Donbass in recent weeks, but apparently, most attacks start with serious artillery prep. -
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Shut this thread down. The Ukrainian Cossack cosplayers won:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...tury-ancestors - C.
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At the rate that Russia is losing its armor and jets, I wonder how long it will be before Russian arms dealers are trying to buy Macedonia's MIG 19s? Last edited by swaghauler; 05-30-2022 at 06:58 PM. Reason: fixed spelling |
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I have a suspicion those T-62s are being shipped up to be used as static defensive emplacements. The Russians have supposedly been fortifying their gains in the south ahead of a Ukrainian counterattack.
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My thinking was that they were going to swap the T-62s for the DPR and LPR's T-72 and T-80 tanks (and possibly the T-64s, although AFAIK Russia doesn't have any T-64 units these days). That way, they could get some resupply (or at least parts donor tanks) for their own units under the guise of standardizing the insurrectionists' equipment. I may be too generous in my assumptions about their thinking about logistics, though.
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Ukraine had 35,000 PM1910/41 in storage about a decade ago. There are a lot of shelves to pull them from, and for a vehicular or fortification mount where the gun doesn't have to be particularly mobile, it's still a perfectly valid piece of equipment.
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A WW2-era tank gun (T34/85) fielded as a towed anti-tank gun, with secondary (or primary, depending on the bigger picture) indirect artillery capabilities. If it's seeing combat use in today's Ukraine, IRL, it would definitely feature in the Twilight War.
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This cool Twitter feed (Ukraine Weapons Tracker) includes a pic of a WWII-era DP-27 LMG fitted with an optic and suppressor.
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In the Twilight War I can see the large numbers of 1895 seven shot Nagant revolvers being brought of deep storage and issued to mobilization only divisions or dispersed to Pact Allies mobilization only divisions. What say you?
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Some Russian Generals carry the Nagant even now. So it would probably be issued out at some point in the Twilight War.
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Back from 1952, the Ferret Scout Car, formerly known by the less ferocious sobriquet, the Field Mouse, is making an appearance in Ukraine.
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From the recent 25 years ago updates...anyone care to speculate how many Albanian reservists will be fortunate enough to have SKS/SKS clones and how many will be issued Carcano rifles courtesy of Italy from World War II?
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According to this site, there's all kinds of old stuff in use there, especially among the militias!
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I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end... |
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Relatively few SKS - Albania produced only 15-20K of them. In the early 2000s, the most common weapons seized from illegal stockpiles that had been looted from armories were the AK-47, TT pistol, M56 submachine gun, and only as a fairly distant fourth the SKS. Especially because of the emphasis on partisan/guerilla warfare, I expect a lot of reservists would be issued SMGs to provide a base of fire, with one or two SKS in a squad as sharpshooters/designated marksmen.
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Also, the NATO stockpile update by the Clinton Administration never happened in V1-2.2 canon. This means that the US has M1911A1's, M3A1's, M14's and M48A5's warehoused and not given to Turkey.
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For V1 or 2 canon could we also assume there would be an expedited return of M1 Garand, M 1 Carbines and 1911's from Military Assistance Programs to Allies or would you as referee assume the small arms would be of limited use and left in place rather than devote resources to bring them back home?
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Even if they came back to the US, ammunition production after TDM would be common NATO rounds to support the war, not oddball (relatively speaking) rounds for M1 Garands and Carbines. |
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M1 descendants are also fairly common hunting weapons, so there may be less spare parts issues with issue of M1 Garands from government stocks or impounded civilian stocks. (I don't think this would happen until post-TDM, however.)
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In terms of ammo production, the US would likely enforce the Defense Production Act as soon as US forces start fighting. So from 1996 onwards small arms companies are going to be spitting out NATO standard stuff (guns, ammo, maintenance kits, etc). Production of ammo etc for the civilian market will drop to a trickle. The US getting a few tens of thousands of M1s will be a logistical challenge rather than a helpful addition. Every cleaning kit, stripper clip, and .30-06 round is one less produced that could be used for the US/NATO service weapons. So I don't see the utility of the US trying to field M1s. I do however think those MAP recipient countries would be fielding them. Even if their front line forces had newer weapons they'd equip militias/conscripts/rear echelons with their old M1s. The sorts of places that got MAP weapons aren't seeing the same level of fighting as Europe or the Far East. |
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