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#151
10-13-2011, 01:14 PM
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For that matter, what's a quid? I've never been able to figure it out.
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#152
10-13-2011, 01:44 PM
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A quid is one pound sterling, be it Imperial or decimal. Hence the phrase "unwell cetacean" for the sum of six pounds: sick squid.
It seems to have originated in the 1600s and there are several possible roots: the Latin "quid" as in "quid pro quo" meaning the wherewithal to pay, the fact that the Quidhampton Paper Mill made the paper for early banknotes or some sort of relation to "quid" as a measure of tobacco. Interestingly, the term quid is usually not used with a plural so it's: Lend us a quid. I made fifteen quid on it. I blew a hundred and fifty quid on the scabby nag. The only difference is "quids in" suggesting that you've made a serious profit. Now excuse me whilst I cross the frog and go into the rubadubdub to beat seven bells out of the Berk in the corner, happy days, sorted. Last edited by simonmark6; 10-13-2011 at 01:53 PM.
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#153
10-13-2011, 04:52 PM
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Just goes to show, even amongst people who all speak the same language, we're not always speaking the same language!
 
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#154
10-13-2011, 05:52 PM
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Pretty Much OT
My Irish housemates once said they saw the Irish accent as neutral and proceded to describe the ways in which English, American, Canadian, Scottish, Australian, and New Zealand accents mangle the (ahem!) Queen's English. No measurable sense of irony.
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#155
10-13-2011, 05:56 PM
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#156
10-13-2011, 06:21 PM
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What IS that ugly thing!
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If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives. Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect" Mors ante pudorem
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#158
10-13-2011, 06:30 PM
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I thought that was the entire Kansas wheat belt?
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If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives. Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect" Mors ante pudorem
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#159
10-13-2011, 07:42 PM
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#160
10-13-2011, 07:47 PM
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#161
10-13-2011, 07:50 PM
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Okay, to get back on track...
Get it? On track? Hahahaha... okay, where's my medication? This is a good example of why Mr "I want everyone to call the M113 light tank the Gavin" cannot have everything he wants.  M113 Medium Reconnaissance Vehicle -- M113A1 with Scorpion CVR(T) turret Those panels on the side and the front that look like extra armour, they're actually floatation panels to help the beast stay above the water when it tries to be amphibious. By putting a turret on the M113, it became seriously unstable when it tried to swim. That won't be a problem if you can get across a river with a bridge/ferry etc. but if you can't you might just be leaving your fire support behind or worse... sitting at the bottom because an errant wave caused it to capsize. Basically what I'm saying is that no matter how good the M113 might be, it simply cannot do everything the guy on the website believes it can unless it loses some other ability.
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#162
10-14-2011, 02:46 AM
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#163
10-14-2011, 05:17 AM
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I have pretty much lived all my life in Nebraska, when I joined the USMC and spent about 3 of those years in North Carolina. When I came home my family (sisters in particular) giggled allot as I had picked up a somewhat of a southern accent. Its mostly gone now, though occasionally use a word or inflection once in a while.
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#164
10-14-2011, 05:21 AM
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#165
10-14-2011, 06:00 AM
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This the M-113 Gavin Vomit Comet! 
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#166
10-14-2011, 07:34 AM
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*sigh* all this M113/variant bashing hurts me to my core
 I spent roughly 8 years on different M113 variants - M577, M113, M113A3, TC'd a M901. I have a soft spot for them.They're not nearly as bad as the rap they're getting - they just can't be used as a direct replacement for a M2 or any other IFV - an IFV they're not. I still think that we'd get 80% of the mission capability of the Stryker for 25% of the cost with the M113. But the added loss of life (getting to that in a sec) wouldn't be worth it - the biggest issue with them nowadays is the IED. There's no way to retrofit a V-shaped hull on the M113 (like they're doing rather successfully with the Stryker), so in a counterinsurgency, they'd be a death box. Regardless, I love them even if they are flawed, so please take it easy on my memories :-D
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#167
10-14-2011, 08:00 AM
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Despite my attack against the guy who wants everybody to call the M113 the Gavin (and believes that it's a light tank), I actually do like the boxy little bastard. For me it's one of the iconic vehicles of the Cold War era just as much as the Chieftain, M60 & T-62 MBTs, the BMP-1 & Marder and the BTR-60 and so on.
I have fond memories of standing in the rear hatch with an SLR in one hand and hanging on for dear life with the other as we ploughed through the scrub at a great rate of knots. And just for the hell of it, how's this for an interesting M113 variant - be a real bitch to reload the .50 cals under fire! 
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#168
10-14-2011, 09:45 AM
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10-14-2011, 10:40 AM
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10-14-2011, 10:42 AM
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10-14-2011, 10:48 AM
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#172
10-14-2011, 11:24 AM
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Well, the question isn't liking; the question is being goddamn insane about it and thinking it's the omni-vehicle that it in fact is not. In the roles it has to serve, it does pretty well. I would just rather have an M1 where an M1 was needed, not some unstable internet creep's whacked out sci-fi idea that a tracked aluminum box is the solution to all problems.
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#173
10-14-2011, 04:54 PM
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That would make the living greatest Infantry support vehicle. Can you imagine the African Plains. Sitting up high where you can see. Can you put a FLIR on it. ................................. *drools*
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#174
10-15-2011, 01:40 AM
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You can put a FLIR on most anything these days. If nothing else, I'm sure something with a PAS-13 could be sorted out.
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#175
10-15-2011, 07:22 AM
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I can also see the Mississippi Highway Patrol having one of these set up at there next license inspection checkpoint!
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#176
10-15-2011, 02:06 PM
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Whose 113 is that? What's the designation? It's definitely stat-worthy!
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#177
10-15-2011, 05:20 PM
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Warning - Image heavy
@ Targan - I didn't actually serve with 2 Cav, just rode in their battle taxis once in a while and I was back in W.A. for some time when they got the AUSLAVs.
@ ArmySGT and Paul - I did some more searching because the site I pilfered the "Quad 50 M113" from didn't mention anything about its ownership. I found this forum states that it's a Turkish modification http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?topic=18699.105 And they have a far better copy of the pic I posted as well. I've since found that "apparently" it's called the M113A2T2 ZPT (still not certain though) and it's made on the Turkish base model M113 (the M113A2T2) and here's some more pics of it: -    For some more images (with better detail) although of a model kit, try this link http://m113.blog.cz/1004/m113-a2t2-ztp And here's another interesting M113 from the What If modelling site I posted above - apparently was an experiment with the turret from the M24 Chaffee by Taiwan. Although they linked to a Taiwanese forum for the pic, they didn't add the second pic   And because I seem to have the Google-fu today, here's another Quad 50 M113 variant - the M548 (apparently it was a field mod and had some sort of armour as well).  Also, if you can ever find a copy of "Vietnam Tracks - Armor In Battle 1945-75" there's a few M113 mods to be found between its covers. Unfortunately some of the photos don't show a lot of detail but you can find one pic with a mostly obscured M113 mounting the turret from the M8 Greyhound (page 42). The M113 is behind a Ford scout car so you can't see a whole lot of the body but you can see enough to see that it is an M113. Vietnam Tracks Armor In Battle 1945-75 Simon Dunston Osprey Publishing Ltd ISBN 0 85045 472 7 Published 1982 Reprinted 1984 An Israeli urban combat mod for the M113  To finish off, how about an IFV based on the M113 sporting a BMP3 turret - the Turkish ACV-SW. I believe the manufacturer is FNSS Savunma Sistemleri 
Last edited by StainlessSteelCynic; 10-15-2011 at 05:43 PM. Reason: Clarification of vehicle name
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#178
10-15-2011, 05:32 PM
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And I found another one and boy is it ugly!
Image: A Bahraini Army M548 APC guards the main entrance to Budaiya, west of Manama, March 25, 2011. (REUTERS/Hamad I Mohammed)  Found it on this blog 'Military In the Middle East' http://milinme.wordpress.com/
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#179
10-15-2011, 05:50 PM
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I...I...my eyes, they are burning:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1.../5ton113-2.jpg I dont know if this...abomination...belongs here or in the 'gun trucks' thread... Found that gem in this old thread on militaryphotos.net: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...3-and-variants
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#180
10-15-2011, 06:20 PM
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I wonder if that's doable with like an M2 (complete with turret) as a "cab-over"?
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