![]() |
![]() |
#1
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Ok I have pulled the British Nuclear Targets from the V2.2 Manual.
Aberdeen, Aldershot, Bantry Bay, Barnsley, Bedford, Birmingham, Blackburn, Bolton, Bradford, Bristol, Bury, Cardiff, Coventry, Derby, Dover, Dundee, Edinburgh, Folkestone, Glasgow, Gloucester, Grangemouth, Grimsby, Hereford, Hull, Leeds, Liverpool, London, Luton, Lanchester, Milford Haven, Newport, Nottingham, PortTalbot, Rochdale, Rotherham, Sheffield, Southampton, Stockport, Swansea, Warrington, Wigan, Wolverhampton, Yeovil, York. I have a question about Bantry Bay. Is there a Bantry Bay in the UK? I have found one in Ireland (Southern) and in South Africa. For now I am leaving it as the Irish one. Am I missing something here? Last edited by kato13; 06-05-2009 at 06:56 PM. |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Last edited by kato13; 06-05-2009 at 07:18 PM. |
#3
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
Thanks for creating the map - it's a good resource.
__________________
Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
Quote:
|
#5
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Thank you for this...
I've a couple of questions... First is, how did you make it? And second was... do you think you'll be making any more for the other countries or even one of the European continent? |
#6
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
If someone gives me a target list (with warhead size) I can build a map in about an hour I would expect. Massive numbers of strikes or a huge map might take longer. I am currently working on the math for a MIRV impact as described in the Morrow Project basic rules. Once I complete that I will do a 2802 warhead strike on the US. I don't expect it to be pretty. Last edited by kato13; 06-06-2009 at 08:22 PM. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Poor UK. Compare the number of nukes that hit it vs. the number of nukes that hit the entire US. Us Yanks faired far, far better in terms of not being nuked to radioactive rubble compared to the Brits.
|
#8
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
![]()
__________________
Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom |
#9
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
__________________
Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one bird. |
#10
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
One of Australia's two biggest fleet bases is just south of my city (also within the same area is the biggest fuel refinery in this part of the world). A nuke target for sure.
__________________
![]() |
#11
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
The 25 nearest canon strikes to my home (and my relation to them)
37.8 km NxNW of Whiting, IN, 1750 Kt 63.4 km NE of Joliet, IL, 1000 Kt 327.8 km WxNW of Lima, OH, 750 Kt 342.1 km W of Toledo, OH, 1750 Kt 363.8 km N of Lawrenceville, IL, 500 Kt 382.8 km W of Windsor, Canada, 1000 Kt 405.8 km NxNE of Wood River, IL, 1500 Kt 426.8 km NxNE of Scott AFB, IL, 500 Kt 444.7 km WxSW of Sarnla, Canada, 1750 Kt 506.8 km S of Sawyer AFB, MI, 500 Kt 586.8 km NW of Catlettsburg, KY, 750 Kt 652.8 km W of Hamilton, Canada, 1000 Kt 657.7 km ExNE of Sugar Creek, MO, 500 Kt 671.1 km ExNE of Kansas City, KS, 500 Kt 699.9 km WxSW of Toronto, Canada, 2000 Kt 694.4 km E of Offutt AFB, NE, 1500 Kt 703.4 km NxNE of Blytheville AFB, AR, 1000 Kt 810.9 km WxSW of North Bay, Canada, 750 Kt 852.0 km WxSW of Trenton, Canada, 750 Kt 835.1 km NW of Fort A. P. Hill, VA, 500 Kt 930.8 km WxSW of Chalk River, Canada, 500 Kt 912.7 km ExNE of Eldorado, KS, 500 Kt 940.5 km NxNW of Dobbins AFB, GA, 500 Kt 959.2 km WxNW of Arlington, VA, 500 Kt 960.6 km WxNW of Quantico, VA, 500 Kt The results of one of the many tools that will be available when my new mapping project launches. Stay tuned. |
#12
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Well the UK hit list could have been alot worst.
Plymouth and Portsmouth were not on the list. So the Royal Navy keeps a main repair base and a nuke sub re-fueling base at Plymouth and another major repair base at Portsmouth. Also both have large ammo and fuel depots. I'm surprised to see none of the USAF's bases in the UK didn't get hit either. At the time both TW2000 v1&2 came out the US still had large bases at Fairford & Upper Heyford to name just two. |
#13
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
I've always assumed in my campaign that obvious targets that one would expect would be nuked (especially NATO targets) but were not had had nukes fired at them but the weapons had been intercepted by some 'Star Wars' system, malfunctioned because they are crappy Soviet weapons, missed or were taken out or rendered inoperative by some other means such as EMP.
__________________
![]() |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
I was born and brought up in Maltby, about six or seven miles from Rotherham, one of the targets listed.
I spend a couple of years in a little village in Lincolnshire, which appears to be far from any targets. Lived in Carlisle for some years (also far from any targets), then moved to Stoke-on-Trent, where I currently live. Still not close to any targets, but closer than I was in Carlisle or Lincolnshire. Thanks for the map. I'd looked at the list of targets, but didn't quite notice Rotherham was on it until I looked at the map - that took me slightly by surprise ![]() |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
If you look at the strikes on Swansea and Port Talbot, the bit where the two strikes overlap is where I live. At least it would have been quick...
|
#16
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
I'd love to se a map of the US west coast if HQ would provide you with the targets and locations...
How are your maps considering dirty bombs by the way ? Reason fo this question is : When General Pain fled bombed out LA ; he blew up the Library Tower in downtown LA using a dirty (faulty) Nuke hidden in an Soda dispenser... This casued the collaps of the General Pain rule in LA....a sad day really... (non of my so called allies responded to my hails of help) (but after helping the start of WW5 who could blame them) Attacking force consisted of former loyal troops led by my own flesh and blood...ahh family......
__________________
The Big Book of War - Twilight 2000 Filedump Site Guns don't kill people,apes with guns do. ![]() |
#17
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
If you send me the list I will add it to the system. More details in a PM. |
#18
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Struggle for Survival
Governing Britain after the Bomb. by Steve Fox http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/featur...new_page_1.htm |
#19
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Sorry for resurrect an old thread, but no RAF Menwith Hill?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Menwith_Hill |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
My guess on the airbases is that by the time of the strikes most aircraft would have been forward deployed to Germany either as formed squadrons or as replacements.
Alternatively persistent chemicals and or conventional weapons may have been used on them. |
#21
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
In my opinion it's an important site as you can see and not simply a RAF base.
From the Wiki: Quote:
|
#22
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
I'm inclined to agree with James that Menwith Hill might have already been hit by conventional strikes earlier in the war making a nuclear strike unneccessary. That said, there are a number of other locations that are equally likely targets that don't appear on gdw's target list - if you look at the map there's a large gap between York and Glasgow, so the whole of the north east of England hasn't been targeted. That area includes several major sea ports, one major airport and one smaller one, and the Teesside oil refinery, which could process 280,000 barrels a day.
As Ramjam said earlier in the thread none of the Royal Navy's bases have been nuked either and neither was NATO's North Atlantic Maritime HQ which was based in Scotland.
__________________
Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom Last edited by Rainbow Six; 08-29-2013 at 06:38 AM. |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Bear in mind I am working from memory here:
* wasn't the map in the Survivors Guide to the UK (SGUK) different in the strike list with extra targets? * nuclear strikes below a certain size are not listed * not sure if this was canon or discussion but there was an assumption that as command and control and launchers were hit, some targets escaped by accident. In addition as the strikes continued EMP affected later strikes. * Portsmouth's strike missed and hit the sea (SGUK) |
#24
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
Going from memory here also (will be home on Sunday at which point I'll have access to everything on my home pc including a copy of the SGUK), so not sure about a conflict between different lists. Point about sub 0.5 mt strikes has come up before though and I believe that there are no references to warhead sizes in the SGUK but there are in the v2 BYB (which basically takes what was in the v1 SGUK including incorrectly listing Bantry Bay as being in the UK. Previous discussion was here
http://forum.juhlin.com/showpost.php...5&postcount=87 Reading that post again, it looks like there may well be ambiguities between the two maps in the SGUK, although those may relate more to the island of Ireland than the UK.
__________________
Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom |
#25
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
OK, back home now. Looking at the two maps in the SGUK I can't see any obvious major discrepancies between the two...the first map (the nuclear strike map) doesn't show any strikes on the entire island of Ireland but does have the disclaimer "Strikes in Eire Not Shown" (I can't be sure what context they are using Eire in - I always thought that Eire referred only to the Republic of Ireland, but I think we had a discussion about this on this board and one of the Irish members said that Eire refers to the entire island).
The second map (the general UK and Ireland map) again states that data for Eire is incomplete and that communities in parentheses were subjected to one or more nuclear attacks. That map shows Belfast and Londonderry as being rubble but not in parentheses, but I think that can be explained by civil disorder and the Southern Irish invasion. I've read through the entire SGUK and can't see any reference to strikes under 0.5 mt not being shown - it maybe there and I've missed it...(the wording used in the BYB is "the following British Cities were subjected to nuclear attacks of greater than 0.5mt"). A number of places show on the second map as being intact, including Newcastle upon Tyne, Doncaster, Stoke on Trent, Leicester, Portsmouth, and Plymouth. In Ireland Dublin, Cork, Galway, and Limerick are all showing as intact.
__________________
Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom |
#26
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
A quick reminder, my mapping system was built to handle dozens of variations. If anyone wants to put together a different list (perhaps including sub 0.5MT strikes) that can be mapped as well.
|
#27
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
This discussion is hit almost every day by guest users. It is probably 3rd in terms of hits relative to the number of posts in the thread (After "homemade guns" and "faraday cages").
I think they might be looking for a map of all potential targets from the cold war days and not one from our pretty limited conflict. Has anyone here worked on such a list. I would try to map it out if someone provides one. |
#28
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
There's a target list for a full scale exchange on this site.
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/featur...dices.htm#app5 It's pretty comprehensive, although note it does date from the late 1960's and doesn't refer to the specific locations of Regional Government Headquarters (RGHQ's, also known as Regional Seat of Government or RSG), it just says that each one would be a likely target. In the 1980's there were eleven RGHQ's as follows: Scotland: RGHQ: Cultybraggan, nr Crieff, Tayside Alternate RGHQ: Kirknewton, nr Edinburgh, Lothian NE England: RGHQ: Shipton, North Yorkshire Alternate RGHQ: Hexham, Northumberland East Midlands: RGHQ: Skendleby, nr Spilsby, Lincolnshire Alternate RGHQ: Loughborough, Leicestershire East England: RGHQ: Bawburgh, nr Norwich, Norfolk Alternate RGHQ: Bedford, Bedfordshire Greater London: RGHQ: Kelvedon Hatch, nr Brentwood, Essex (No alternate) SE England RGHQ: Crowborough, nr Crawley, West Sussex Alternate RGHQ: Basingstoke, Hampshire SW England RGHQ: Chilmark, nr Salisbury, Wiltshire Alternate RGHQ: Bolt Head, nr Salcombe, Devon Wales RGHQ: Wrexham, Clwyd Alternate RGHQ: Brackla, Mid Glamorgan West Midlands RGHQ: Swynnerton, nr Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire Alternate RGHQ: Lawford Heath, nr Rugby, Warwickshire NW England RGHQ: Goosenargh, nr Preston, Lancashire Alternate RGHQ: Hack Green, nr Crewe, Cheshire Northern Ireland RGHQ: Ballymena, County Antrim (No alternate) There was also a (supposedly secret and unknown to the Soviets) Central Government bunker at Corsham in Wiltshire. Looking at the list it looks like virtually every significant Royal Navy and Royal Air Force base is targeted although most major Army bases aren't, so you could probably add Aldershot, Salisbury, and Catterick (at least) to the list as well.
__________________
Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom |
#29
|
||||
|
||||
![]()
This is taking the piss GDW. They nuke WEST Cork/South Kerry?! Theres nothing there! The only military installations are old British forts and a camp where a few hundred reservists get trained in the summer. Beyond that, sheep farming and a few fishermen. Tsk tsk USSR.
|
#30
|
||||
|
||||
![]() Quote:
__________________
Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom |
![]() |
Tags |
maps, nuclear strikes, united kingdom |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 4 (0 members and 4 guests) | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
I need targets for a test. | kato13 | Twilight 2000 Forum | 20 | 06-11-2009 01:51 AM |
Map of Canadian Nuclear Targets | kato13 | Twilight 2000 Forum | 3 | 06-06-2009 12:41 PM |
Nuclear War!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | headquarters | Twilight 2000 Forum | 23 | 04-21-2009 01:27 PM |
Nuclear Blasts | kalos72 | Twilight 2000 Forum | 32 | 03-12-2009 03:59 PM |
A Bit OT: British Casualties In Afghanistan | kato13 | Twilight 2000 Forum | 0 | 09-10-2008 03:21 AM |