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Old 02-26-2009, 10:07 PM
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Default Rebuild or remove: A strategic long term question.

So with my campaign in Manhattan, my group is in debate.

With much of Manhattan/Brooklyn/Queens/Bronx and even New Jersey being SO heavily "urbanized", the group is having debates about how/where to get land for farming.

Cemeteries have come up...

Additional parks from other boroughs have come up...

Alternative locations such as rooftops, window planters and such have been discussed...

What they are debating now is this: Since the population around NYC is less then half of what it once was, wouldnt the land be better used to feed to the current residents rather then have block upon block of unused, deserted buildings?

By concentrating the population you can provide better security, more basic resources such as heat/electric/clean water and easier organization on many levels. Seeing as the entire NYC "published" population could fit on 1/3 of the island of Manhattan now, why not tear down everything else for farmland?

And for god sakes, does anyone have any numbers/information they can link me for cement production in a T2K environment?
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Big job to demolish and clear buildings by hand. I think the only way it could be done that way would be for Hizzoner the Mayor or The Duke to use slave labour.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:17 PM
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"Slave" or not is more so treatment then anything now...maybe some better food or housing.

If you control 100k people...who look to you to eat, and you say "if we can clear these 3 blocks we can double our food for next year"...I think labor will no longer be a problem.
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Isn't Manhatten island mostly granite. I'm not even sure you would find earth to plant in once you removed the structures.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:35 PM
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No Manhattan isnt mostly granite, at least on the upper levels. Some of it was actually "made" by adding fill to the shore line over several different time periods.

http://bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Map/NY.1729.html

But also, you have Brooklyn and Queens which are part of Long Island whohc has always had a very strong agriculture base.
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This shows topsoil of 6-10 feet for areas of Manahtten.

http://www.farlang.com/gemstones/gra...-york/page_051

I knew it did not go very deep due to my readings of the construction of the subways. With areas that had little excavation I expect you could farm there after clearing.


What are you looking for in the way of cement production. I have mine/production locations that I can get to in a little bit. Unfortunatly I am reformatting my primary computer at the moment.
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