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in my campaign the Battalion commander had carried out a major reorganization of his command. He condensed the basic platoon down as follows, and the Company was composed of four to five of these platoons. Company Headquarters Section contained the majority of the support assets that kept the company paperwork and maintenance going. When i can find the rest of the notes on the Battalion i'll be posting it on it's very own thread. This thread is to help me make the platoon reorganization better and more flexible.
Would the vehicles assigned to the platoon be a seperate section or an organic part of the individual platoon sections? US Army Platoon Organization (emergency wartime organization): Section One 2LT <name>, Platoon Commander SGT <name>, Plt Cmdr Radio-Telephone Operator SGT <name>, Combat Field Medic SGT <name>, Fire Team Leader SPC <name>, Grenadier PFC <name>, Automatic Rifleman PV2 <name>, Rifleman SPC <name>, MG Gunner PFC <name>, MG Assist. Gunner PV2 <name>, MG Ammo Bearer SPC <name>, Designated Marksman Section Two SFC <name>, Platoon Sergeant SPC <name>, Plt Sgt Radio-Telephone Operator SPC <name>, Combat Field Medic SGT <name>, Fire Team Leader SPC <name>, Grenadier PFC <name>, Automatic Rifleman PV2 <name>, Rifleman SPC <name>, MG Gunner PFC <name>, MG Assist. Gunner PV2 <name>, MG Ammo Bearer SPC <name>, Designated Marksman Section Three SSG <name>, Squad Leader SPC <name>, Radio-Telephone Operator SPC <name>, Combat Field Medic SGT <name>, Fire Team Leader SPC <name>, Grenadier PFC <name>, Automatic Rifleman PV2 <name>, Rifleman SPC <name>, MG Gunner PFC <name>, MG Assist. Gunner PV2 <name>, MG Ammo Bearer SPC <name>, Designated Marksman Overwatch Recon & Sniper Section: SGT <>, Spotter SPC <>, Sniper PFC <>, Flanker Embedded Journalism / Combat Correspondent Section: <name>, Field Correspondent <name>, Cameraman <name>, Producer * <name>, Sound & Lighting Technician * SPC <>, Anti-Armor Gunner PFC <>, Anti-Armor Asst. Gunner PV2 <>, Anti-Armor Ammo Bearer SPC <>, Mortar Gunner PFC <>, Mortar Asst. Gunner PV2 <>, Mortar Ammo Handler |
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Hmmm Looks to be a reinforced platoon. I don't ever remember our platoon having more than one medic, maybe a 2nd one from the aid station. Nice that the 2nd fire team are now MG teams assigned to each squad.
As for assigning vehicles. If they are tracked or mounted then they should be assigned. If they are used from transportation sub-unit and to only motorized, then no. In WWII many Infantry units were motorized, would be loaded in Duece and half and taken to predetermine distance behind the front and the troop would dismount and go to the front from there. Then the transportation would go back and get the next unit making it was up on foot. |
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I added a sniper overwatch & scout section with the three man composition since i had read that many nations have added a thrid position as 'flanker' to their sniper teams to protect the sniper and spotter whiel they where focused on their targets. I saw these overwatch/recon teams as perfect when supported by each of the designated marksman from the individual sections when they really needed to rip enemy positions with precision marksmanship and gunfire... i have thought of a section that would have a mortar team and anti-armor team... but i don't know. i need help with that aspect with advice from actual combat infantrymen who'd know if that would really make a platoon more self-sufficient or not. |
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Just a slight note: When I was in the Army, and you were a PV2 for more than a few months after arriving at your first unit, you were either pogue or you'd been demoted at some point. The T2K situation may alter things, but that's my two cents.
OT aside: I knew a guy who'd been demoted to E-none so many times that he took some blank name tag tape and made himself sew-on PV1 rank. (A PV1 has no stripes.) His superiors didn't think it was funny...
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I have a feeling that during the war the ranks of PVT and PV2 would be held by those draftees that where there 'just to fill in the ranks' as it where. Promotion to higher ranks would end up being career military or those draftees who would actually be damn good at their jobs. Does anyone have suggestions about the Mortar and Anti-Armor assets being directly assigned to the platoon level with this reorganization that i'm using? Or does any have any suggestions for improving it? Or should I keep it the way it is? |
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I think I'll create a Heavy weapons section then, composed of a motar team, and anti-armor team... i'll spend some time thinking of how to set them up... hum... might be fun coming up with the two additional sections, or put the heavy weapons team with the platoon vehicle section, since they would be held in reserve carrying all the platoon equipment and supplies. |
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On thing you could do is take the MG team and make them a fire team which would be the anti-tank team of the squad. Then make the two AT teams into MG teams that could be attached to any section as needed.
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Nate, your real name is Richard, isn't it?
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Also as I remember to, I think by 2000 many of the enlisted would be holding the rank of E-4. Only Privates and Private First Class would be those who were busted recently, in many cases like in any war, they would receive their rank quickly back. Any E1, E2, or E3 one would encounter would be more than likely be a local recruit.
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A million years ago when I was in the Guard (this was early 1980s), we didn't have SAWs, so our "automatic riflemen" were M-60 gunners without A-gunners. Assuming we had enough blanks available, four other members of the squad would be carrying as many as two extra belts of ammo for the M-60s each.
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![]() It goes with the addition of the following letters at the end of their SSN... RA (Regular Army, regular volunteer 'career' soldier) AUS (Army of the United States, draftee) OR (Officer reserves) ER (Enllisted reserves) NG (National Guard) USN (US Navy) USMC (US Marine Corps) USAF (US Air Force) USCG (US Coast Guard) |
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One thing about the military it would take them awhile even after 1998 to realize that re-inforcement wouldn't be on the way. Most commanders would want their enlisted, if killed to be of the rank they had earned. |
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If you are killed in combat, your corpse is generally promoted one rank before they put you in the ground.
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I really hadn't thought of that... I was trying to capture the feel how it was during the second world war with soldiers who had remained PV2 from the moment they hit the beach at D-Day to V-E day. I like the fact that if you're killed in combat they automaticly promote you one paygrade before you're buried.
It makes me think about how the wartime moturay affairs would be taken care of. Anyone here know anything about that subject? |
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Enemy dead are another matter...presumably if you have dead enemies near your base you will want to dispose of them to avoid the spread of disease... fuel and wood and such like would presumably be too valuable to waste burning dead enemy combatants, so I would imagine they would end up in mass graves, dug by prisoners, civilians, or if neccessary the PC's themselves? (I'd imagine a common theme with captured marauders would be to hand them a shovel so they could dig a pit big enough for their dead buddies plus themselves). Dead enemies in the middle of nowhere where the spread of disease is not an immediate concern could presumably be left for the birds / animals after they were stripped of anything useful. Of course, in extreme situations, dead bodies could be used as a source of food...enemies first, but in absolutely desparate circumstances the bodies of allies could also be eaten (a la Alive)
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As if T2K wasn't a depresing enough environment to roleplay in, the PCs in some campaigns like to engage in behaviours that I usually avoid in my characters (on the rare opportunities that I get to play rather than GM). The PCs in Headquarters' campaign clearly like to dally with (or perhaps whole-heartedly embrace) 'the dark side' and the same goes for my campaign.
When it comes to dealing with the corpses of enemies or just strangers Major Po and his troupe of professional war criminals like to leave messages for other passers by. Just leaving the looted and semi naked bodies lying in the mud is fairly standard. Posing corpses at the site of a firefight to paint a different picture to what actually happened would also be a pretty common sort of activity, as would allowing some of Po's more detached and brutal underlings to do a little creative mutilation. Other fun choices have in the past included deliberately contaminating water sources with bodies, booby trapping corpses and using corpses to pretend that live hostages have been taken. It would be a rare occasion indeed for Po's unit to give fallen enemy combatants a decent burial or funeral pyre.
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Yes they had steady stream of replacements, and back then there wasn't set in stone rules when people moved up from Private. Also before the end of the Vietnam War there were several more Specialist/Technical ranks which were throw back to previous times. Many times these people where promoted to E-4 to E-7 and didn't hold down a command position, the add rank was way to recognize the held a senior position, yet not give the command authority. Even much like when I was in the 82nd with Specialist, they could 'temporarily' be in leadership positions, this depended from MOS and unit to unit. |
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Bear in mind, promotions in Iraq right now are ungodly fast and there isn't a shortage of bodies coming into theater (by comparison to the Twilight War). I personally had one of my Corporals make Staff Sergeant in 10 months. That's right. E4 >> E5 >> E6 in a 10-month span. And he didn't die.
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I had thought of mortuary affairs sections found in battalions, but have no idea how they are organized or even how they carry out their operations. |
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Mortuary Affairs are not at BN-level. They're at BDE- or higher-level. It falls on the unit in contact to recover any bodies or remains. If you can't, then unfortunately, there is nothing that is going to be done anytime soon. There is a POW/MIA detachment in Hawaii that deals exclusively with recovering remains, but they typically go back years later and identify via DNA.
Also, I'd really look at your reorganization of platoons above. It's very inflexible and as an Infantry platoon leader, would severely degrade my ability to engage and maneuver on an enemy. The nine-man squad format is the most ideal configuration for a Squad. If you want want to include gun teams, then add them as attachments. In Ranger Infantry units (and some other Airborne units), the 9-man squad gets a 3-man gun team assigned to them under that squad leader's control (3 Rifle squads and 1 Weapons Squad of 3 gun teams). Stryker Infantry is similar in a 9-man squad and a 2-man vehicle crew (with a .50 cal or a MK-19). Even a Mechanized Infantry platoon still uses 9-man squads, even if they have to break that squad up amongst multiple vehicles. |
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Seen too many garrison super troops get promotion, which if you are show unit is nice. Yet, passing junk on the bunk and what not mickey mouse stuff one does in garrison will not keep you alive in the field. When I was in 20 year ago it was 1000 points to make E-5, now it like 350. Also back then if you were lucky you could make E-5 in a 4 year hitch. Now you can make it with year or so out of Basic and AIT in infantry. Then again I remember recent E-6 who was promoted and the other E-7/E-8 were talking about how quickly the guy made Staff Sergeant, in like 6-7 years. Also the influx of bodies also helps one get promotions up the ladder too. |
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![]() I was wondering how to set up the platoon Vehicle Section... Do you have recommendations for how many vehicles they would have? be it HMMWV and 2 1/2-ton trucks or even surviving BIFV or even an M1A2 Abrams? i kind of was thinking that they would try to put a tank company with every infantry battalion... but i'm not sure... |
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I took just a quick look at your previous link, but it led me to a link that's absolute gold:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranks_a...rmies_enlisted
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