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Old 08-14-2019, 05:53 PM
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Yeah, the info on the "m1 ignition cylinder" FSN 1375-219-8583 is scanty. I suppose if you know the weight of 100 in a package, you can presume that 90% of the package weight is the actual igniters, and just divide it by 100.

The Project has HAFLA-35 and M202A1 "Flash" launchers for most of their fire-setting needs.

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Old 08-14-2019, 07:37 PM
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Yeah, the info on the "m1 ignition cylinder" FSN 1375-219-8583 is scanty. I suppose if you know the weight of 100 in a package, you can presume that 90% of the package weight is the actual igniters, and just divide it by 100.

The Project has HAFLA-35 and M202A1 "Flash" launchers for most of their fire-setting needs.

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I'll give that a try.

I do know they come in a red tin can of 2 cylinders and to open the can you use a "key" similar to a can of spam/c-ration and roll the top off and the 2 cylinders slide out along with a couple of seals used to protect the cyclinders in the can.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:58 PM
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Here is a link to that fuel study:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf

Granted, the scope of the research was for 5-year storage with no special considerations. The report does indicate that even unstable gasoline could be stored in an oxygen-free indefinitely. They back this up with a statement that showed at least 7-years of life. But the study does not indicate an upper bound to the gasoline shelf life, even though I agree 150 years would be quite the stretch.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:17 PM
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Great find, mmartin798 !

I suspect that for flamethrower usage, the Morrow Project could come up with a fuel lasting at least 25 years (long enough for a team to be placed, frozen, and woken up a few years after the Atomic War). An M9A1-7 doesn't need to worry about tiny fuel injectors, pump lubrication, etc.

However, the Project doesn't know about the 150-year stretch ahead; presumably a person with a flamethrower will wake up, look in their fuel can or barrel and frown at the hard lacquer that remains.

Unless your campaign uses time-stopping or some other Advanced Science to prevent fuel, rubber, medicines, ammunition, etc. from going "bad".


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Old 08-15-2019, 11:38 PM
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from FM 3-8, Chemical Reference Handbook, pub. January 1967.
  • item: Ignition cylinder flamethrower M1
  • units per container: 100
  • wooden box
  • gross weight: 54 lbs.
  • cubic feet: 1.2
  • package dimensions: 16" x 14-1/4" x 9-1/2"
  • number as packed per 2-1/2 ton truck: 9,000

The cylinders come two to a small metal can, so they each weigh about 0.22 kilograms (0.5 kg for the can with two cylinders) ... at a guess.

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Old 08-16-2019, 05:12 AM
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from FM 3-8, Chemical Reference Handbook, pub. January 1967.
  • item: Ignition cylinder flamethrower M1
  • units per container: 100
  • wooden box
  • gross weight: 54 lbs.
  • cubic feet: 1.2
  • package dimensions: 16" x 14-1/4" x 9-1/2"
  • number as packed per 2-1/2 ton truck: 9,000

The cylinders come two to a small metal can, so they each weigh about 0.22 kilograms (0.5 kg for the can with two cylinders) ... at a guess.

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Thank you, that does help greatly
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Old 08-16-2019, 03:38 PM
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I did some more searching and found that modern flamethrowers used for controlled burns very often use an 80/20 diesel/gasoline mixture. Since biodiesel is not that difficult to produce given the ability to press oil from seeds and produce some methanol, all you need to do is find some crude to crack or some other source of lightweight hydrocarbons to make the gasoline to keep on flaming your enemies. You might have a problem with running out of ignitors. Maybe go with a DIY engineered spark ignitor or some kind of pilot flame that you can trigger to a jet to ignite the fuel.
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