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Old 06-06-2009, 09:25 AM
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I was wondering... are there any lists or maps showing the European nuke strikes?
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:29 AM
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I've never seen one anywhere.
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I don't recall seeing any definitive Target List for mainland Europe. There was very fine line between the tactical exchange on military targets and the targeting of rear area strategic targets with tactical nuclear warheads. This of course morphed into a full strategic nuclear exchange using long range ballistic weapons with yields near or above the megaton range.

To compile any sort of list, one would have to read all of the European based source material to get information directly from the text. This would be very time consuming and almost certainly reveal at least some contradictions. Many of the references of nuclear strike locations within the various modules seemed to be plot driven, though there is often a direct connection to a past military campaign in the area. Unfortunately, there was never an in depth military history of the war that covered all of the major operations and campaigns.

We might be able to work up a decent Target List for France, Belgium, Mexico and a few other neutrals based upon known oil facilities and important strategic targets.

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Old 06-06-2009, 09:30 PM
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The map that came with the v.1 boxed set and the similar map that came with Going Home showed the cities that had been nuked (although some could have been reduced to rubble in other ways). As Benjamin says, it would be time consuming to transcribe them all. As a GM I try to keep detailed notes of randomly generated radiated areas that were tac nuke targets.
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The map that came with the v.1 boxed set and the similar map that came with Going Home showed the cities that had been nuked (although some could have been reduced to rubble in other ways). As Benjamin says, it would be time consuming to transcribe them all. As a GM I try to keep detailed notes of randomly generated radiated areas that were tac nuke targets.
Thanks for reminding me of this Targan.

I finally got a chance to look at these maps. Cities listed in Parentheses are show as rubble. Given the extent of devastation present on the maps I am going to assume that these are tac nukes.

As for being time consuming I just mapped out 520 canon units so the Strikes will be no problem.
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Here are the 88 cities listed as rubble on the 2 maps GDW provided (From The Basic Rules and Going Home Module)

Brest, Belarus
Grodno , Belarus
Antwerpen, Belgium
Gent, Belgium
Prague , Czech
Ostrava, Czech Republic
Lille, France
Berlin, Germany
Bonn, Germany
Borchum, Germany
Bremen, Germany
Dortmund, Germany
Dresden, Germany
Duisburg, Germany
Dusseldorf, Germany
Emmerich, Germany
Erfurt, Germany
Essen, Germany
Frankfurt an Oder, Germany
Gara, Germany
Gorlitz, Germany
Gotha, Germany
Hagen, Germany
Hamburg, Germany
Hannover, Germany
Honnef, Germany
Jena, Germany
Karl-Marx-Stadt, Germany
Kiel, Germany
Koln, Germany
Leipzig, Germany
Lubeck, Germany
Mulheim, Germany
Munchen Gladbach, Germany
Operhausen, Germany
Rees, Germany
Remagen, Germany
Siegen, Germany
Wesel, Germany
Wuppertal, Germany
Zwickau, Germany
Alphen ad Rijn, Netherlands
Amsterdam , Netherlands
Breskens, Netherlands
Delft, Netherlands
Dordrecht, Netherlands
Elten, Netherlands
Gorinchem, Netherlands
Gouda, Netherlands
Haarlem, Netherlands
Hoek van Holland, Netherlands
Katwijk aan Zee, Netherlands
Leiden, Netherlands
Middelharris, Netherlands
Rotterdam, Netherlands
s Gravenhage, Netherlands
Terneuzen, Netherlands
Utrecht, Netherlands
Vllssingen, Netherlands
Zevenaar, Netherlands
Bialystok, Poland
Bydgoszcz, Poland
Bytom, Poland
Chorzow, Poland
Czestochowa, Poland
Elblag, Poland
Gdansk, Poland
Gilwice, Poland
Gorzow Wielkop, Poland
Jelenia Gora, Poland
Katowice, Poland
Kielce, Poland
Loniza, Poland
Olsztyn, Poland
Opole, Poland
Poznan, Poland
Przemysl, Poland
Radom, Poland
Sosnowiec, Poland
Stargard, Poland
Szczecin, Poland
Tarnow, Poland
Warsaw, Poland
Wloclawek, Poland
Wroclaw, Poland
Zabrze, Poland
Kovel , Ukraine
Lviv, Ukraine


Here are Canon strikes I received from Chico (thanks again)

Bytom, Poland (Black Madonna)
Chorzow, Poland (BM)
Czestokowa, Poland (BM)
Gliwice, Poland (BM))
Katowice, Poland (BM)
Nowa Huta, Poland (Free City)
Radom, Poland
Sosnowiec, Poland (BM)
Tarnow, Poland (Soviet Vehicle Guide)
Warsaw, Poland

This makes me think it is going to be a pretty good match. I will however remove several cities on the Rhine which are listed as rubble. The devastation on the Rhine is total, and I don't think the Soviets would have concentrated on those areas (neglecting others). I believe most of the devastation is due to the conflict with the French which I believe did not have any nukes involved. Though if a city has a large refinery I will still probably nuke it.
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I reviewed the list given by Kato (taken from basic rules) and disagreed on a few cities. I also found that several were missed. As a result, I tried to complete this list and give it country by country. I left UK aside (as I like the target listed in the game) and I didn’t cover Scandinavia as I consider that it might not have been targeted at all. I also considered that very little city strike hit south-eastern Europe except for one on Ankara (Turkey). However, a number of tactical strikes were registered on the battlefields.

Baltic states region:
- Kaliningrad.

Belarus:
- Brest-Litovsk (Brest)
- Grodno
- Minsk

Ukraine:
- Cerkassy
- Lvov (Lviv)
- Kovel
- Kiev
- Odessa

Poland: report to Kato’s list.

Czech Republic: report to Kato’s list.

Germany: report to Kato’s list.
However, I disagree with Kato on one thing, I considered the Rhineland to be levelled and even add several among the cities that are geographically closed.(such as Frankfurt on Mainz)

Netherlands: entirely agree (poor Dutch).

Belgium: (No reason to bomb Ghent, that is a non-sense)
- Antwerpen
- Ostende
- Brussel

France:
- Lille (several hit on Calais, Cambrai, Denain, Dunkirk, Lille and Valencienne).
- Strasburg
- Le Havre
- Brest
- Lorient (nuclear sub base)
- Toulouse (aircraft and space industries)
I consider that Lyon and Marseille survived leaving two major refineries intact.

Italy:
- Torino
- Milano
- Bologna
- Napoli
- Tarento

Portugal
- Lissabon
- Porto (the city survived but the northern area was nuked because of the refinery there)

Spain
- Barcelona
- Bilbao
- Madrid
- Zaragossa
- Valencia
- Cadiz

Italy, Portugal and Spain were not primary targets but I consider that their industrial centers were hit.
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