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08-10-2009, 12:48 PM
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OT: "Red Dawn" To Be Remade
Is this sacrilegious or what? Taking a classic teen movie of the late Eighties and remaking it twenty years later - and to what purpose?
http://www.getthebigpicture.net/blog...wn-remake.html I first saw this on the BBC today where they were saying Tom Cruise's adopted kid was going to be playing one of the teens and it was going to be a Chinese / Russian co-invasion. I'm slightly mollified that the guy who wrote Michael Clayton has been hired as the writer (but who knows what the director will do with his script?). Evidently they also plan to do Robocop. What happened to the days when studios produced original entertainment (or at least only ripped off foreign language movies that nobody had ever watched)? 
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08-10-2009, 04:29 PM
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Well, I do think that China is the superpower of the future. But I've also long thought that Hollywood has run out of ideas.
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08-10-2009, 05:07 PM
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08-10-2009, 05:10 PM
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08-10-2009, 05:23 PM
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How about making a movie from Heinlein's book Starship Troopers? That "movie they called Starship Troopers but wasn't and sucked" just didn't cut the mustard.
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08-10-2009, 05:37 PM
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Meh, it was a worth a laugh.
Or worth laughing at, take your pick.
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08-10-2009, 06:19 PM
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08-10-2009, 07:06 PM
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Littlearmies, you beat me to it.
Tom Cruise's son is going to play the C. Thomas Howell character. http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies....remake-reuters Wikipedia says there are talks with Kurt Russell to be a part of the remake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn#Remake Who might he play? Lt. Col. Andrew Tanner? or Tom Eckert? my most favorite dialogue from the original Jed Eckert: ...Well, who *is* on our side? Col. Andy Tanner: Six hundred million screaming Chinamen. Darryl Bates: Last I heard, there were a billion screaming Chinamen. Col. Andy Tanner: There *were*. [he throws whiskey on the fire; it ignites violently, suggesting a nuclear explosion] Guess that dialogue won't make it to the remake. -bdd
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08-10-2009, 07:56 PM
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08-10-2009, 10:48 PM
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08-10-2009, 10:52 PM
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Meh, I'm more interested in them making a movie version of The Forever War anyway. A better book than Starship Troopers IMO. If they stuffed up a film version of The Forever War I'd be really mad.
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08-10-2009, 11:05 PM
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08-10-2009, 11:10 PM
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you know... it would have been better in the remake to have changed it from being the chinese on our side, to being the russians.... but that is just my own werid idea of irony
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08-10-2009, 11:11 PM
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Forever war would be an AWESOME movie.
Provided it's done right....
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08-10-2009, 11:49 PM
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08-10-2009, 11:52 PM
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08-11-2009, 01:38 AM
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I remember seeing Red Dawn while on Liberty Weekend in Boot Camp. (I also saw Ghostbusters, Condorman, and Yentl -- don't ask -- that same weekend.) It has long been one of my favorite movies.
I'm not sure that a remake would really have the same impact today as it did 25 years ago. We now live in a society that all-but demonizes the mere access to a firearm, much less teaching our children how to actually use such an "evil thing". To show a group of high school students who not only have access to and know how to use guns but who are also willing to do so against other human beings -- and yet keep from portraying them as a group of psychopathic juvenile delinquents -- is almost asking too much of the hankie-wringers who seem to be infesting Hollywood these days. On the other tentacle, I would happily go see a true movie adaptation of Starship Troopers...I have nothing against the existing movie nor the "Roughnecks" animated series, but neither of them match very closely the way the book played out in my mind. I also second (or third or whatever) the suggestion of a movie made of The Forever War. For that matter, I would love to see movies of Old Man's War and any of the Falkenberg's Legion books. (I was given a copy of West of Honor as a commissioning present, and have carried it with me ever since.)
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08-11-2009, 06:34 AM
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and in the end when they are all captured unharmed they will be sent to a nice camp where they get told they did a bad thing on a side note the bad guys might have guns
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08-11-2009, 05:37 PM
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I actually kind of dug the "Roughnecks" animated STT series. Loved the Forever War. I'm not sure it would translate to film, though and I'm not sure Ridley's the director to try it. Condorman? Loved it as a little kid; watched it again a few years ago... Sheesh! It did not hold up at all. How can they remake Red Dawn? If the Chinese are the main baddies, lot's of folks are going to scream RACISM! (and, perhaps, rightly so).
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08-11-2009, 06:21 PM
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08-11-2009, 06:36 PM
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08-11-2009, 06:40 PM
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 "Racist! Burn him!" 
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08-11-2009, 06:58 PM
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I personally feel that the "Racism" card pendulum is swinging to the point where it exceeds actual cases of blatant/apparent racism (I have no idea how prevalent sub/semi conscious racism is). To be honest I hate that the word racism has been diluted to such a degree it has almost become useless. I really don't like it being used when "prejudiced" is really the proper term for most cases.
A variation happened to word Rape. It became sexual assault. And now when a eight year old boy kisses a classmate it can be classified by the same term. That is really inane. Harsh words with bite used to have a clear definition, now the waters have been muddied so people can make something appear more significant than it is. That is a shame.
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08-11-2009, 07:11 PM
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Getting back on topic
Red Dawn Imdb page http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1234719/ Ugh. This the directors first movie. Though he was the stunt coordinator/second unit director for two the Bourne Movies and three kings. Interesting the first two leads are Australian.
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08-11-2009, 08:53 PM
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08-11-2009, 10:15 PM
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Red Dawn remake!? Sacrilege! Heresy! Who do they think they are? But I'll probably see it anyway, just to compare the two versions.
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08-11-2009, 10:26 PM
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Bias? Of course not, why would you suggest such a thing?
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08-11-2009, 11:14 PM
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