Reorganized XI Corps

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graebarde 02-09-2004, 08:39 AM Well after reading all the other posts, and Shrikes most excellent OOBs, I figured I might as well post the OOBs I came up with rather than have to answer each email individually.


So please bear with me...


grae

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graebarde 02-09-2004, 08:46 AM REORGANIZATION


In the fall of 1999, Fifth Infantry Division (Mechanized) was ordered into containment early. The division was no longer really a division other than in name only, nor was it really mechanized. The total division strength was below 25%, and Armored vehicle strength was below 20%, with availability lower than that. Replacements in men, equipment, parts, and supplies were nonexistent or at such a trickle they might as well have been. Brigadier General Ramon G. Rodriguez, commanding general of 5 ID, recognizing this decided it was time to do something about the organization. BG Rodriguez was recently given command of the division when the previous CG succumbed to the devastating Carpathian flue, so named because it seems to come from the Carpathian Mountains of southern Poland. The division, already depleted by combat, was left with 40% of the survivors of the war dead from the Carpathian flue,


He ordered his staff to develop a reorganization plan for the division to be implemented over the winter containment. He wanted a fighting organization, combat ready by spring. The staff, under the guidance of Colonel Walter A. Matthews, a hardcore infantry officer, set about the task, and delivered the draft plan within 48 hours. Rodriguez was pleased with the plan and impressed with the speed at which it was delivered. Matthews told his boss he actually dusted off and made some minor changes to plans he had drafted a year ago, but the old CG wasn't interested at the time. Well Rodriguez was, and told Matthews to run with the plan.


THE PLAN


The former CG of 5ID had left the structure of the division untouched, resulting in the units being reduced to squads in some case, or even nonexistent, but still shown on paper. There was some clustering of troops, though not official, done to try and maintain combat efficiency. Matthews plan would change all that.


His first order was the establishment of an Infantry training center, co-located with the MSB. Here, a cadre of veteran infantry troops from line battalions would give a 'refresher' course to all the REMFs no longer needed in the rear to perform defunct missions. While engineers prepared the TC, the reorganization orders were sent out.


The new improved 5 ID would be composed of the following with 'authorized' strengths as listed.


Division Headquarters and Headquarters Company 350

105 CEWI Battalion 180

105 Signal Battalion 215

705 Military Police Battalion 245

4/12 Cavalry Squadron 200

11 Engineer Brigade 375

{Consisting of three 'battalions': 11, 811, and 721}

5 Division Artillery 550

{40th Field Artillery Regiment}}

5 Aviation Brigade 50

{Aviation detachment}

275 Cavalry Squadron (Provisional) 135

5 Division Support Command 700

{Consisting of: 705 MSB, 5 FSB, 65 FSB}

105 Chemical Company 35


Maneuver battalions:

3 Heavy battalions {1/61, 2/61, and 1/256} 1200

5 Light battalions {1/10, 2/10, 1/11, 2/11, 1/143} 2400



Command


Division Headquarters took on a Spartan look, with officers taking over the functions of enlisted, to allow enlisted to move to 'productive' work elsewhere. Only a cadre of NCOs remained to show the officers how it was done, but then they were often stumped themselves as NOTHING was as it used to be. Improvisation was the key to success. The division HQ also provides thee local 'governors' to the AO, the criminal court officers, chaplain's services, and command/staff for maneuver brigades.


Division Headquarters Company [350]

Command 5

Chief of Staff 10

Brigade Headquarters 30 (3x ten-man command-staff elements)

Adjutant 35

Intelligence 35

Operations 50

Logistics 25

Civil Government 40 (headquarters, 15x two-man teams)

Judge Advocate 10

Chaplain 15 (6x two-man teams)

Security 30 (3x eight-man squads)

Commandant 65 (headquarters, maintenance, supply, administration)


Intelligence


105th CEWI Battalion still had its original mission, but due to lack of electronic replacements was greatly hindered, yet they managed to do the best they could with what they had. One unit of the battalion was largely unaffected by the reorganization, except to increase in size and importance. This was E Company (Long Range Surveillance), which is stripped from the MI battalion and allocated to the cavalry squadron. The GSR's that remained in service were farmed out to the forward outposts along lines of likely approach.


105th CEWI Battalion [180]

Headquarters 15

EW technicians 35 (8x four-man teams jammers, listeners, etc)

GSR units 25 (6x four-man GSR teams)

Counter Intelligence 25 (12x two-man teams)

Security Intelligence 25 (6x four-man teams)

Intelligence Analysts 35

Special Operations 20 (4x six-man teams)


Signal


105th Signal Battalion had a serious problem with radio communications. Batteries were the major problem, along with parts for electronic components. Messenger services and wire communications were the main means of communications within the containment area, and wire teams were constantly repairing broken wires. Messengers traveled on foot, motorcycle, bicycles, and occasionally in four wheeled vehicles.


105th Signal Battalion [215]

Headquarters 25

Division COMELO 10

Crypto 10

Radio Teletype 20 (6x RATT units)

Comm Centers 45 (3x comm. center, switchboards)

Messenger Service 32 (8x motorcycle, 10x bicycle, 4x CUCV)

Land Lines Service 48 (8x six-man wire/cable teams)

Long Range Radio 25 (5x radio sections)

Military Police


705th Military Police Battalion's mission was largely unchanged, but made more difficult as time went along due to desertions and bandit attacks. Black-marketing and misappropriation of military goods was also rampant, and the new CG wanted it stopped. A labor camp was established to 'house' the worst offenders, and 'hard labor' took on a new meaning in the American sector.


705th Military Police [245]

Provost Marshal 10

Criminal Investigations 8

Headquarters 17

4x Military Police 35 (15 two-man patrols, HQ-operations)

1x Security Platoon 45 (4 ten-man squads, HQ-ops)

1x Confinement 25




Aviation


The 5th Aviation Brigade, which no longer had operations due to lack of parts and fuel, maintained only one flight of serviceable aircraft in hopes of getting some fuel. The Aviation 'detachment' of the division has two OH58 Kiowa Warriors and one UH60 Black Hawk that are still flyable, but again fuel is the limiting factor, hence they remain grounded.


5th Aviation [50]

Headquarters 10

Maintenance 15

Ground Support 10

Flight Operations 15 (2x OH58D, 1x UH60)


Reconnaissance


Horse cavalry returned in the form of the 4/12 Cavalry. They skimmed the division for combat veterans with horse experience, and were constantly scheming to gain replacements of horses, equipment, and men. They tried to maintain eight 8-man patrols, but in actuality never succeed to do so. Company E, 105th MI Battalion (LRSU) managed to maintain six 8-man teams. They skimmed the cream of the crop within the division also and had priority of 'operators'. They operate on horse as well as foot and operate much further ahead than the main force cavalry. The formation is very loose as the patrols are often gone from the HQ elements. Cavalry Troops are lettered A-H, whereas E Company's patrols are numbered 1-6.


4/12 Cavalry Squadron [200]

Command 3 (CO, XO, CSM)

Squadron Staff 20 (admin/logistics and operations/intelligence)

Communications 10 (comm. Center and radio operators)

Medical 10

Logistics 30 (field kitchen, transport and remount services)

Headquarters 15

A-H

8x Troops 64 (each troop of 8 horse-mounted dragoons)


E Company 105th MI (LRSU) [48]

6x Patrols 48 (each patrol forms two four-man teams with HQ consolidated)


Division Support


The Division Support Command is formed into two forward support battalions and one main support battalion. The 705th Main Support Battalion operates the main base of the division. They operate a field hospital, bakery, fuel distillation center, ammo renovation, storage and issue facility, cannibalization and repair facility, textile repair facility, boot repair, general supply storage and issue, as well as the labor battalion for the fields around the MSB. They also have transportation units to move supplies, including fuel to the forward support battalions. Most of the transport is by horse drawn wagons made of truck chassis, but there are still several motor vehicles used. These are primarily for heavy equipment and bulk items. Land trains, of multiple trailers pulled by one tractor are the normal for motorized transport of supplies. Forward support battalions provide area support to the 'brigade' sectors. They maintain a combat support hospital, supply, maintenance and transport, at a much-reduced size from prewar levels. 105th Chemical company mission was very difficult, largely due to the losses of significant numbers of trained specialists, and the lack of decontamination and monitoring equipment. They did the best they could with what they had, and were co-located with the MSB.



705th Mains Support Battalion [470]

Command 3

Support Command Staff 25

Rear Area Operations Center 15

Commandant 12

Field Kitchens 25 (operates 3x kitchens)

Field Hospital 75 (40 bed hospital ICU)

Bakery 20 (15 bakers)

Textile Repair 20 (clothing and canvas repair)

Boot Repair 10 (boot repair)

Cannibalization and Repair 35 (cannibalization point, repair depot)

Fuel Distillation 15 (2x large stills)

Ammo Renovation 30 (collect, renovate ammunition)

General Supply 20 (collection, storage and issue)

Motor Transport 35 (4 heavy equipment transporters (HET), 12 'land trains')

Transport (Horse) 30 (25 six-horse hitch heavy wagons (4 ton)

Labor Support 85 (labor pool)

Replacement Administration 15

105th Chemical Co 35 (runs shower point, decontamination, general services)



2x Forward Support Battalion [115]


Commandant 15

Combat support Hospital 35

Supply, Maintenance, Transport 65




Light Battalion


The fighting bulk of the division is in five light battalions. These are formed of a cadre of infantry veterans filled with the 'nonessential' personnel from rear area battalions. It is these persons which attended the training center set up at the MSB during the late fall and winter of 1999. Each battalion sent a cadre of twelve NCOs and three officers to the training center to train the 'replacements'.

The light infantry battalion consisted of the headquarters and Support Company and three line companies with an aggregate strength of 480.


Headquarters and Support Company [180]

Command 3 (CO, XO, CSM)

Battalion Staff 20 (admin and logistics, operations and intelligence)

Communications 29 (com center, 2x wire teams, radio section)

Medical 25 (battalion aid station, medivac , 3x medic teams)

Logistics 34 (field kitchen, transport and maintenance)

Recon 17 (3x four-man recon teams)

Mortar 26 (4x 81mm mortars)

Fire Support 19 (2x HMAW, 4x HMG)

Commandant 7 (company staff, 2 command drivers)


3x Rifle Company [100]

Headquarters 8 (company staff)

Weapons 11 (3x two-man GPMG teams, 2 SMAW gunners)

3x Rifle 27 (3x eight-man rifle squads)



Heavy Battalion


The division still maintains strength of 36 M1's, 48 M2/3's and 60 M113-series vehicles in the maneuver battalions. These combat vehicles, considered operational, are consolidated into three heavy battalions. Their primary constrains are the lack of fuel, spare parts, and ordnance for the main guns. Each of the battalions has 12 M1's, 16 M2/3's, and 20 M113-series in two companies and a headquarters & support company. Each battalion also has four 120mm mortars. Each battalion consists of a Headquarters and Support Company and two Heavy Companies with an aggregate strength of 400. The 256th Armored Battalion is equipped with M60A3s and M113 carriers, where as 61st units are equipped with M1/M2/3 series vehicles.


Headquarters and Support Company [200]

Command 3

Battalion staff 20

Communications 20

Medical 20

Logistics 50

Scouts 36 (6x M2/3 six-man)

Mortars 33 (4x 120mm)

Tank 8 (2x MBT)

Commandant 10


2x Armored Company [100]

Headquarters 16 (staff and maintenance)

Tank 20 (5x MBT)

IFV Infantry 64 (8x IFV/APC eight-man)

Division Artillery


5th Division artillery's face had changed but not its mission. In the summer of 1999, they had received a 'surprise' shipment of 18 'obsolete' M101 105mm howitzers. These pieces were the old split-tail model, and soon caissons were fabricated to allow the pieces to be towed by draft animals due to the shortage of fuel for trucks. The remaining eight M109 Self propelled gun-howitzers of the division were used for general support missions, and received priority among the battalions for fuel. Ammunition for these guns was still a shortage item however. The Division artillery has been designated as the 40th Field Artillery Regiment, with the light batteries as A, B, C batteries, and the heavies as D and E. The fire control of the batteries has reverted to 'stick and chain' survey methods for accuracy, a time consuming and often inaccurate method.


Headquarters and Support battery [165]

Command 3

Battalion staff 20

Fire Support Coordination 15

Target Acquisition & Survey 25

Communications 25

Medical 15

Logistics 55

Commandant 7


3x Light Battery [85]

Battery headquarters 10

Firing battery control 15 (Fire Direction Control, Forward Observers)

Guns 50 (6x M101 105mm howitzer)

Ammunition 10 (8x teams)


2x Heavy Battery [65]

Battery headquarters 16 (admin and maintenance)

Firing battery control 15 (FDC, FO)

Guns 24 (4x M109 155mm Sp gun/howitzer)

Ammunition 10 (5x FAASV)

Engineers


11th Engineer brigade, organized around three combat engineer battalions, had difficult times keeping heavy equipment running, maintaining main supply routes (MSRs), and constructing fortifications. There lack of trained personnel was not a limiting factor, as the cadre base of the brigade was strong. They also did not have a big shortage of heavy construction-type equipment, but the M9 ACE was in short supply. The 'Brigade' has an aggregate strength of 375.


Headquarters and Support Company [190]

Command 3

Battalion staff 20

Division Engineer 10

Communications 25

Medical 15

Logistics 55

Commandant 7

Water Purification 18 (3x water points)

Power Generation 12 (6x 60kw generators)

Heavy Equipment Operators 25

(3x D7 Dozer, 2x Motor grader, 2x 4wd tractor scraper, 2x crane, 3x backhoe loaders, 3x 3-yard loaders, 2x compactor units, 1x dragline, 2x semi-tractor w low-bed trailer, 2x compressor units)


Heavy Combat Support Company [75]

Headquarters & Maintenance 15

Combat Engineer Vehicle 4 (1x CEV)

AVLB 3 (1x AVLB)

Mine Clearing Vehicle 4 (2x Mine clearing)

Mine Laying Vehicle 3 (1x Mine Layer)

Armored Combat Engineer 42 (6x M113)

M9 ACE 4 (2x M9 ACE)


2x Combat Engineer Company [55]

Headquarters 17

SEE vehicle 6 (3x SEE)

Combat Engineer 32 (4x Dump Truck, 4x HMMWV)




275 Cavalry (provisional)

'MAD MAX'


The ADA battalion was in a like situation, due to lack of viable air threat, and missiles to place on target. Matthews, at the urging of the Air Cavalry commander, authorized the formation of what was referred to as the 'Mad Max' Battalion. It consists of highly modified HMMWVs, 5-ton cargo trucks, all converted into gun platforms reminiscent of the Vietnam era gun trucks, and a few home-brewed FAVs. Theses are located in the 275 Cavalry, a provisional unit based on one of the division attack helicopter battalions. These vehicles are 'farmed out' for convoy escort, base security, and fire support for light battalions as needed, or available. The number and types of vehicles in the battalion continues to grow, based on salvaged weapons and platforms, with a current battery of 23 vehicles.


Headquarters 12

Maintenance and Log 18

Vehicle crews 105


Mod 1 5-ton 1x 7.62 minigun crew 4-6 3x

'GRIM REAPER' 'SHOGUN' 'ACE OF SPADES'

Mod 2 5-ton 1x 30mm chaingun crew 5-6 1x

'UNDERTAKER'

Mod 3 5-ton LWB 4x 2.75" rocket pods crew 4-6 1x

'SWOOSHER'

Mod 4 5-ton 1x AGL, 2x GPMG crew 5-7 3x

'REBEL ROUSER' 'BABY CAKES' 'SPIRIT OF AMERICA'

Mod 5 5-ton 1x HMG, 1x AGL, 2x GPMG crew 6-8 1x

'ROAD WARRIOR'

Mod 6 AVENGER 4x HELLFIRE, 1x 25mm chaingun crew 2-3 2x

'HELL'S ANGEL' 'PAUL'S REVENGE'

Mod 7 HMMWV 1x AGL crew 2-3 1x

'SCORPION'

Mod 8 HMMWV 1x HMG, 1x GPMG crew 4-5 2x

'THUNDER' 'BLITZKREIG'

Mod 9 HMMWV 3x GPMG crew 4-5 3x

'SALLY ANN' 'TWISTER' 'BALLS TO THE WALL'

Mod 10 FAV 1x AGL crew 2-3 1x

'LITTLE THUNDER'

Mod 11 FAV 1x HMG crew 2-3 2x

'DAISY CHAIN' 'SLEEPY JOE'

Mod 12 10-ton HEMET 1x 23mm quad, 1x 82mm 'pickle' mortar, 2x 30mm AGL, 2x GPMG

'THE BEAST' crew 10-12 1x

Mod 13 5-ton 2x 7.62 minigun, 1x AGL crew 6-8 1x

'VALKYRIE'

Mod 14 5-ton M165 Vulcan ADA APC chassis crew 4-8 1x

'BUZZ SAW'

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graebarde 02-09-2004, 08:49 AM THis is the task organization for the division when they kick off for the spring offensive.


5 ID


10th Infantry Brigade

Det 10 105 Signal

1/10 Infantry

2/10 Infantry

1/61 Armored

A-40 Artillery

E-40 Artillery

811 Engineer

Det 1 275 Cavalry

GRIM REAPER REBEL ROUSER BALLS TO THE WALL HELL'S ANGEL

5 FSB

A B 4/12 Cavalry


11th Infantry Brigade

Det 11 105 Signal

1/11 Infantry

2/11 Infantry

2/61 Armored

C-40 Artillery

D-40 Artillery

721 Engineer

Det 2 275 Cavalry

SHOGUN BABY CAKES SALLY ANN PAULS REVENGE

65 FSB

D E 4/12 Cavalry


256th Infantry Brigade

Det 256 105 Signal

1/ 143 Infantry

1/256 Armored

B-40 Artillery

Det 3 275 Cavalry

ACE OF SPADES SPIRIT OF AMERICA TWISTER BUZZ SAW

C F 4/12 Cavalry


Division Trains

HHC

105 CEWI

105 Signal-

11 Engineer-

275 Cavalry "MAD MAX"-

UNDERTAKER SWOOSHER THE BEAST VALKYRIE DAISY CHAIN LITTLE THUNDER SLEEPY JOE ROAD WARRIOR SKORPION THUNDER BLITZKREIG

DivArty-

705 MSB

705 MP

5 Aviation

4/12 Cavalry-

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graebarde 02-09-2004, 08:51 AM This has NOT been fleshed out fully, but gives the general organization.


XI Corp Rear Area

1984TH Surgical Army Hospital

804 Signal Company

368th MP Batt

368th MI Batt

411th Engineer Batt

17th Area Support Group

505th Quatermaster Batt

35th Supply and Service Batt

78th Aviation Service Bn (Prov)

83rd Ordnance Batt

25th AG Postal Co

548th Transportation Detachment

456th Replacement Detachment

8th State Military Office

305th Military Affairs Detachment

315th Corp Finance Group

251st ADA Batt

1/111th Combat Team

IX Corp Artillery

211 FA Brigade

42 FA Brigade

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graebarde 02-09-2004, 09:00 AM These were given to me by Scott for use. They were mods of my organization for the other three divisions in the corps, infact the XI organization is his now that I think of it (duhhhhh)



8th ID

13th Infantry Regiment

Det 13 8th Signal

1/13 Infantry

2/13 Infantry

3/13 Infantry

B/13 Armored

43 Artillery

28 Artillery

1/12 Engineer

13th FSB

A B 8th Recon


28th Infantry Regiment

Det 28 8th Signal

1/28 Infantry

2/28 Infantry

3/28 Infantry

A/28 Armored

A-45 Artillery

56 Artillery

2/12 Engineer

28th FSB

D E 8th Recon


5th Infantry Regiment

Det 5 8th Signal

2/5 Infantry

C/5 Armored

B-45 Artillery

C F 8th Recon


Division Trains

HHC

8 CEWI

8 Signal-

12 Engineer-

DivArty-

8 MSB

8 MP

3/34 Armor

3/5 ADA

G H 8th Recon

8th Aviation at Corp


50th Armored Division

50th Infantry Brigade

Det 150 250 Signal

1/102 Armored

2/102 Armored

1/114 Infantry

A-3/258 Artillery

E-3/258 Artillery

181 Engineer

250 FSB

A B 5/117 Cavalry


3rd Armor Brigade

Det 23 250 Signal

1/127 Armored

1/101 Cavalry

1/69 Infantry (M)

C-3/258 Artillery

D-3/258 Artillery

101 Engineer

342 FSB

D F 5/117 Cavalry


86th Armor Brigade

Det 386 250 Signal

1/172 Armored

2/172 Armored

2/182 Infantry

B-3/258 Artillery

152 Engineer

186 FSB

C E 5/117 Cavalry


Division Trains

HHC

250 CEWI

250 Signal-

42 Engineer-

DivArty-

50 MSB

42 MP

5/117 Cavalry-


This section was not task oriented it appears (sigh)


SECOND MARINE EXPEDITIONARY FORCE


The marine expeditionary force was composed of the 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Field Service Support Group and 2nd Marine Air Wing. With the shortfall of necessary fuels, and intensive air combat in the early years of the war, the MAW was soon grounded. The surplus of officers in the MAW were sent to 2MEF Headquarters and utilized by that command and XI corps as military governors in the containment area. The enlisted personnel, being Marines and every Marine being a rifleman first, were utilized to keep the regiments partially up to strength.


2nd MEF


Headquarters Battalion

Headquarters Company

2nd Force Recon Company

2nd MLE Company

2nd SOTG


2nd Intelligence Battalion

Headquarters Company

Company A (P&A)

Company B (CI/HUMINT)


2nd Communications Battalion

Headquarters Company

Company A (DS)

Company B (DS)

Company C (DS)

Company D (GS)

Company E (Service)


2nd Radio Battalion

Headquarters and Support Company

Company A

Company B



2nd Marine Division


Headquarters and Support Battalion

Division Headquarters

Division Headquarters Company

Direct Support Team 22

Direct Support Team 26

Direct support Team 28

Special Communications Team


2nd Military Police Company

2nd Signals Company

2nd Truck Company

2nd Recon Company

2nd Marine Division Band



Headquarters Company, 2nd Marine Regiment


1st Battalion, 2nd Marines

Headquarters Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

Company D (Support)


2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines

Headquarters Company

Company E

Company F

Company G

Company H (Support)


3rd Battalion, 2nd Marines

Headquarters Company

Company I

Company K

Company L

Company M (Support)



Headquarters Company, 6th Marine Regiment


1st Battalion, 6th Marines

Headquarters Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

Company D (Support)


2nd Battalion, 6th Marines

Headquarters Company

Company E

Company F

Company G

Company H (Support)


3rd Battalion, 6th Marines

Headquarters Company

Company I

Company K

Company L

Company M (Support)



Headquarters Company, 8th Marine Regiment


1st Battalion, 8th Marines

Headquarters Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

Company D (Support)


2nd Battalion, 8th Marines

Headquarters Company

Company E

Company F

Company G

Company H (Support)


3rd Battalion, 8th Marines

Headquarters Company

Company I

Company K

Company L

Company M (Support)


Headquarters, 10th Marines (Artillery)


1st Battalion, 10th Marines

Headquarters Company

Battery A

Battery B

Battery C

Service Battery


2nd Battalion, 10th Marines

Headquarters Company

Battery A

Battery B

Battery C

Service Battery


3rd Battalion, 10th Marines

Headquarters Company

Battery A

Battery B

Battery C

Service Battery


5th Battalion, 10th Marines

Headquarters Company

Battery A

Battery B

Battery C

Service Battery


2nd Tank Battalion

Headquarters Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

Company D


2nd Amphibious Assault Battalion

Headquarters Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

Company D


2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion

Headquarters Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

Company D


2nd Engineer Battalion

Headquarters Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

Company D

Company E (Engineer Support)



2nd FSSG


Headquarters and Support Battalion

Headquarters and Support Company

2nd Service Company

8th Signal Company

8th Military Police Company


8th Maintenance Battalion

Headquarters and Support Company

Company A (Ordnance)

Company B (Engineering)

Company C (Electronics)

Company D (Motor Transport)

Company E (General Service)


2nd Logistics Battalion

Headquarters and Support Company

Company A (Logistics)

Company B (Ammunition)

Company C (Medical Logistics)


8th Engineer Support Battalion

Headquarters and Support Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

Company D (Bridge)

Company E (Engineer Support)

Company F (Bulk Fuel)


8th Transportation Battalion

Headquarters and Support Company

Company A (DS)

Company B (DS)

Company C (GS)

Company D (LS)

Company E (B&T)

Company F (Support)


2nd Surgical Battalion

Headquarters and Support Company

Company A

Company B

Company C


2nd Medical Battalion (DS)

Headquarters and Support Company

Company A

Company B

Company C

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Webstral 02-09-2004, 03:10 PM Grae,


Extraordinarily good stuff! What a tremendous amount of work you've done here!


Just one note: you know you've taken a few liberties with the units in the 5th ID as given in Escape from Kalisz, right? I don't have a problem with that, personally. God knows I've taken enough liberties with the official history of T2k so far, and I will probably take more.


I'm willing to buy into your work, Grae.



Webstral

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Jason Weiser 02-09-2004, 09:52 PM Same here,

And in fact Grae, I had an idea I use that you might wanna steal. In order to bring USA and USMC units up to snuff, surplus USAF EMs and officers were formed into troop units of Company size under either surplus Specops and SP officers. They were then fed into Army and Marine Battalions, much to the chagrin of the the Army and Marine Battalion commanders.

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graebarde 02-09-2004, 10:09 PM Liberties? ME? LOL

Yes I did as a matter of fact. And the unit strenght was about 6000 rather than the 3000 canon dictates. However it was a reorganization, stripping all the 'unessential' personnel, so you can imagine what wound up in the line units.


I also had the NATO using a alcohol-fuel mix rather than straight alcohol too, though I didnt mention it in the above. Just one of my quirks.


The MISSION of the whole campaign in the spring of 2000 was also NOT to drive the Russian forces out, or cut them in half. The inital objective was the coal fields north of Konin-Kolo and as an after thought with the 'ease' they accomplished this 3rd Army decided to take the fields on the south of the Warta near Turek, which succeeded in greatly overextending 5ID, leading to the disaster which results in the demise of the 5ID before the rest of XI corps can shift south to consolidate.


But this is MY take. Thanks for the kudos..

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Jason Weiser 02-09-2004, 11:08 PM Same here,

And in fact Grae, I had an idea I use that you might wanna steal. In order to bring USA and USMC units up to snuff, surplus USAF EMs and officers were formed into troop units of Company size under either surplus Specops and SP officers. They were then fed into Army and Marine Battalions, much to the chagrin of the the Army and Marine Battalion commanders.

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graebarde 02-10-2004, 08:32 PM They were then fed into Army and Marine Battalions, much to the chagrin of the the Army and Marine Battalion commanders


No to mention the wingnut that gets sent there as a grunt LOL..

"you want me to be a WHAT?"

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