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Old 01-27-2022, 10:48 AM
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Another plastic model...

The Bratton or indeed Pratley...

https://www.whatifmodellers.com/inde...3312#msg623312

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Default BMO-T

The BMO-T is not an ad-hoc AFV, per se. It's a purpose-built specialist vehicle, but the BMO-T is yet another proof of concept of the turretless-tank-as-APC.

http://www.military-today.com/apc/bmo_t.htm

Although this source states it entered service in limited numbers in 2001, but there's nothing in its tech profile that would preclude it from appearing earlier in a conventional T2k timeline.

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From Ukraine, 4/17/23, a turretless UAF T-64 repurposed as some sort of assault APC. It appears the operators added some sort of light armored superstructure atop the chassis, to which they affixed blocks of Kontakt reactive armor.
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They certainly do love their ERA bricks.
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Given the multiple layers of ERA, it's probably Duplet. That one was designed to be applied in multiple layers, and the T-64E that was prototyped but not sold was fitted with Duplet, so it works on a T-64 hull. As I understand it, most ERA doesn't work well in multiple layers because the detonation of the top layer will damage or destroy underlying layers.
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Not sure where to put this, as it isn't really a gun truck, and I'm not sure it meets the rather broad definition of an AFV.

Behold, an "up-armored" AZ-452 ‘Bukhanka’ (‘bread loaf’) utility vehicle. It looks like sheet metal over some sort of foam.

I can imagine Soviet rear area security troops or marauders scooting around Poland in something like this.
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Not sure where to put this, as it isn't really a gun truck, and I'm not sure it meets the rather broad definition of an AFV.

Behold, an "up-armored" AZ-452 ‘Bukhanka’ (‘bread loaf’) utility vehicle. It looks like sheet metal over some sort of foam.

I can imagine Soviet rear area security troops or marauders scooting around Poland in something like this.
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Well, now I know what a kei truck technical looks like.

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The Russians are sending turretless T-62s into battle as ad-hoc APCs.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=2acf61c31d63

They're also removing the crane and winch from T-54-based BTS-2 engineering vehicles in order to make room to carry troops.

The Russians still have the capability to mount turrets to these MBT hulls but, at least for some, they're choosing not to. Therefore, it stands to reason that, in the Twilight War, when industry is ravaged by nuclear war, it would be common practice to convert tanks with damaged turrets to APCs.

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The Russians are sending turretless T-62s into battle as ad-hoc APCs.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=2acf61c31d63

They're also removing the crane and winch from T-54-based BTS-2 engineering vehicles in order to make room to carry troops.

The Russians still have the capability to mount turrets to these MBT hulls but, at least for some, they're choosing not to. Therefore, it stands to reason that, in the Twilight War, when industry is ravaged by nuclear war, it would be common practice to convert tanks with damaged turrets to APCs.

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I speculated elsewhere that the guns may have been salvaged for use on vehicles that had shot out their gun barrels. The T-62 uses a 115mm gun that's an oddball caliber for Russia, so unlike a 125mm gun that can be fitted into a T-64, T-72, T-80, or T-90, a 115mm gun production line would be solely for a T-62. I don't think any such lines currently exist. They have a fairly short barrel life (~450 full charge equivalents), and if the optics and other electronics on a mothballed T-62 are the older obsolescent stuff, it may have made more sense to pull the guns to keep modernized tanks in the field and find a different use for the rest of the vehicle.
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