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I gotta be honest.
I found "The Forever War" marginal at best. I just couldn't get into spears and arrows in a sci-fi book. I think it was a case where the author didn't want write some complex tactical action and so went with the easier to describe marching line of soldiers. Totally broke immersion for me. |
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I really enjoyed both 'The Forever War' and 'Starship Troopers', in book form anyway. I'd be worried about the terrible arse they'd make of the forever war if they did try and film it though. Has anyone read the sequel to 'Forever War', 'Forever Peace' IIRC? Personally I thought it was truly awful
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Ahh!!! "La Guerra Interminable" de Haldeman. I read it for first time when I was in the University. And, over all the other things, I like the way that Haldeman ends the story. It left in my mouth a good taste that returns every time I remember the book. In fact it is now in the shelves on my rear. And I have not read "Forever Peace", "La paz interminable" in the Spanish translation, because my friends have discouraged me. About the sci-fi matters they usually take the lead and I follow their advices.
And, I don't want to fall in a terrible heresy, Snake Eyes, but I must recognize that I enjoyed more from "Forever War" than from "Starship Troopers" (surely I will burn in hell) ![]()
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Hm, I dunno... "Starship Troopers" was alright, and "The Forever War" was okay... I'm going to have to go with Charles Stross' short story, "A Colder War", for all of your sci-fi wartime goodness.
I mean, c'mon, it's the Cold War Gone Hot, complete with the Cosmic Horror of Cthulhu! ...Although, it's not much of a "war", really.. more like, a genocide of epic proportions. Of course, in an alternate timeline where Project Pluto actually got the go ahead, and Things Man Was Not Mean To Know are held as super-weapons by the USSR... well, things probably would get out of hand, sooner or later. Last edited by CStock88; 12-02-2008 at 03:18 PM. |
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Very similar to "The Forever War" was "Old Man's War" by Skalizy (spelling).
And i thought much better. Read the whole series, but only really the first was worth it. |
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Make no mistake I did enjoy the book Starship Troopers. I enjoyed the film too I guess, but it was nowhere near as good as the book and the differences (and the amount by which the differences damaged the film) reminded me of the differences between the book and film versions of The Postman. Thanks for making this a separate thread Kato!
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I've read the book and seen the film, and can't see anything much beyond surface similarities.
But the film is good, clean, switch-off-your-brain bugsplattin' fun. MEDIC! ![]() |
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However, you may be happy to learn that Ridley Scott is looking to step back into the sci-fi genre by directing a film adaptation of the The Forever War, which would be the best hope the book would probably ever have of seeing a fairly faithful and well done adaptation to film. Quote:
This is great news for me. I consider Haldeman's The Forever War top shelf sci-fi; a fun mixture of the forward-thinking science fiction, the humanist dreamer and gritty realism of human nature. I totally recommend him, especially Forever War, to any who like military-oriented sci fi that isn't just all lazer beams and body counts. |
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Best sci-fi I have read..... next to perhapes some Orson Scott Card is...
"Pandora's Star" by Peter Hamilton and the follow up "Judas Unchained" Nice big thick books of about 500 pages each and a seemingly vast array of non-connected characters that are well fleshed out. Perhapes a bit to much 'love' scenes and some parts are a little out there, but ultimately its about humankind (who now live for 800+ years due to memory chips and cloned bodies) who have spread to the surrounding galaxies run into a malevolent race on 'Pandora's star' plus a 'sleeper cell' of the alien origin currently working to undermine humanity and that investigation. Really great universe, well thought out 'tech', and great characters. Highly recommended. |
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I can't believe a discussion of military SF has gotten this far without mention of David Drake's work, particularly the Hammer's Slammers and RCN universes.
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Though it has nothing to do with T2K, I'd have to nominate Arthur C Clarke's Childhood's End as my favorite Sci Fi book. One of the first Sci Fi books I ever read, and simply fantastic!
Are you able to move this Ref? I put it in the wrong thread! |
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One of his novel was translated in English in 1973 : The temple of the past. He is better known from addaptated animations: Fantastic Planet (1973) and Time Masters (1981) drawn by Moebius. I'll also advocate that some of its works have been among these that largely inspired Hollywood and the sci-fi drama produced in the US (also he was far from alone in that matter). |
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Somewhere between horror, sci-fi, and T2k: the Black Tide Rising series by John Ringo. Four novels and a collection of short stories by other authors.
Somewhat the standard zombie-apocalypse story, except it's the folks who trained and prepped who survive and succeed.The T2k element is how the survivors start organizing and planning to recover the US and the world. Spoiler: they don't go very far into that, less than a calendar year in all of the books. Also, lots of military characters and action. The focus shifts to two teenage sisters as the superheroes of the story, so be warned of that.
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I'd like to see a film/series of "Retief of the CDT" stories, where the Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne fights an interstellar Cold War with the sly, plotting Groaci race. Very tongue-in-cheek; it would test a filmmaker's skill to pull off the dry, wry humor.
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Umm I am going to declare myself apostate...... I thought the Movie "The Postman" was better than the book "The Postman" by David Brin. Something else I would like to see as a Sci Fi mini series.. David Brin's Uplift novels. |
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Well, they sold the rights before the film was made.... The Director (being generous) said he hated the book and called it a fascist wet dream that he deliberately quit reading.
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I am working my way through the "Destroyermen" series.
A WW2 U.S. Destroyer that is hopelessly obsolete at the beginning of WW2 sails through a dimensional rift during a fight with IJN forces in a typhoon... The combatants find themselves on an alternate earth.... a very alternate earth. It's very entertaining. |
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There is the Texas-Israeli War: 1999, full of T2K flavor, written in 1974 by Jake Saunders and Howard Waldrop.
in a world depopulated by bio an chem weapons, but where nukes were effectively limited, an Israeli mercenary tank squadron assists the US military in a drive into Texas to put down a rebellion, in exchange for land. (Yes, Texas, the US government WILL come and take away your guns if you revolt). And, of course, H Beam Piper's Space Viking, with mostly stellar combat, but some groundside encounters. In the far future (2000 years hence), planets originally at the frontier are keeping civilization alive after a general collapse of the Terran Confederation. Those with technology sometimes find it easier to take from those without it... Poul Anderson's Flandry of Terra. Dominic Flandry is a Bond-esque agent of the Terran Empire, engaged in a cold war against the expansionistic rival empire of the alien Merseians. Very Cold War in Space (written in the 1960s, tough to avoid), includes several novels and novellas. Uncle Ted |
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Jerry Pournelle's Falkenberg series (part of the Co-Dominium setting)
All fairly realistic decent tales of near-future military exploits. The first three are about a mercenary unit - interestingly written before the 1990s rise of private security firms. Set in the same universe:
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