Tall Ships of Twilight 2000

[Olefin]

A place for discussing known tall ships that could be active in the Twilight 2000 world of late 2000 early 2001 - this is just a sampling and shows the kind of ships that could be encountered either in the hands of navies, marauders and pirates or in commercial sevice as freighters

Canon has two known tall ships

USS Hyman Rickover - in USN service - armed barkentine Gazela Primeiro

USS Constitution replica - armed frigate

original USS Constitution - she is not mentioned in Last Submarine and her fate is not indicated in Gateway to the Spanish Main - so she could have been taken by the USN for use

Real World examples that should still be in operation if they werent lost

Concordia - barkentine in Canadian navy service

KRI Dewaruci - Indonesian Navy barkentine

Arung Samudera - Indonesian Navy Class B schooner

USS Niagara - sailing brig from the War of 1812 - Lake Erie

USCGC Eagle (WIX-327) - Barque in Coast Guard Service pre-war

USS Constellation - she would have been in a refit in Baltimore and thus if finished able to sail on her own by mid 1998

[James Langham]

From memory, Going Home mentions a German training ship that is missing.

Originally Posted by Olefin

A place for discussing known tall ships that could be active in the Twilight 2000 world of late 2000 early 2001 - this is just a sampling and shows the kind of ships that could be encountered either in the hands of navies, marauders and pirates or in commercial sevice as freighters

Canon has two known tall ships

USS Hyman Rickover - in USN service - armed barkentine Gazela Primeiro

USS Constitution replica - armed frigate

original USS Constitution - she is not mentioned in Last Submarine and her fate is not indicated in Gateway to the Spanish Main - so she could have been taken by the USN for use

Real World examples that should still be in operation if they werent lost

Concordia - barkentine in Canadian navy service

KRI Dewaruci - Indonesian Navy barkentine

Arung Samudera - Indonesian Navy Class B schooner

USS Niagara - sailing brig from the War of 1812 - Lake Erie

USCGC Eagle (WIX-327) - Barque in Coast Guard Service pre-war

USS Constellation - she would have been in a refit in Baltimore and thus if finished able to sail on her own by mid 1998

[RN7]

Originally Posted by James Langham

From memory, Going Home mentions a German training ship that is missing.

Probably the Gorch Fock II built in 1958. She was originaly built to replace the original German naval training ship the Gorch Fock which was scuttled in 1945, then salvaged by the Soviets and renamed the Tovarishch. The Tovarishch was then transfered to the Ukraine in 1991 and ended up back in Germany in 1999 and was converted to a museum ship and renamed the Gorch Fock.

[weswood]

I did some research on this, never wa happy with a replica Constitution. Way too large a crew needed. Of course, all my research notes & links were lost when my old computer crashed, but I think this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Surprise_(replica_ship) was the one I chose as a replacement.

[Canadian Army]

Here are a couple of links to help

List of tall ships: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tall_ships

List of large sailing vessels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ailing_vessels

[Olefin]

by the way - love the idea of two or more tall ships fighting it out with modern weaponry or even old cannons that still work - sort of a modern version of the Napoleanic naval wars