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Old 06-04-2009, 02:22 PM
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Default Map of CONUS Nuke strikes.

As Part of my ongoing mapping work I have played around a little with several options for mapping nuclear strikes.

I have created 3 versions of a map of the Ver 2.2 canon strikes. I am not totally happy with the strike radii math, so it will probably change as I move forward. Hope you guys find them useful.

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Old 06-04-2009, 03:16 PM
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Very cool. Is there anyway to add the Canadian strikes that are visible on the map?

And I'm pretty sure that the CONUS strategic target list in V2 is the same as the list from V1. I'll double check on that using the Challenge article and Howling Wilderness.

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If someone provides me with any canon strike lists (Canada, USSR, UK, etc) I can add those points and map them. I know I have them somewhere but coding is more fun than digging through files . Additional strikes are easy it is just a matter of adding new long/lat points to the database along with a warhead size.

Eventually this will all be added to my gaming maps system, but I still have a lot of work to do on the difference between overpressure and heat radii, and ground versus airburst.
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I have my scanner up and running now and so I can get you the lists as per V1 or V2. All you need to do is send me an email and I'll reply in a bit with pdfs.

I'm pretty sure V1 and V2 hit lists are the same so either one should suffice.

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I have my scanner up and running now and so I can get you the lists as per V1 or V2. All you need to do is send me an email and I'll reply in a bit with pdfs.

I'm pretty sure V1 and V2 hit lists are the same so either one should suffice.

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If you can point me to book name and page numbers that should be enough.
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After reading over them, I can say that the Hit Lists for V1 and V2 are essentially the same.

Since you're using V2.2 "the Big Yellow Book" I'll give you those page numbers.

British Nuclear Targets, page 226 (This lists only cities not what was actually targeted.)

US Nuclear Targets, page 235 (I actually typed this out before remembering that there's a good chance you already had this list.)

Canadian Nuclear Targets, page 236. (Like the US target list this only includes major strategic targets, not the smaller tactical warheads.)

U.S.S.R. Nuclear Targets, page 239. (Other than a few spelling differences this is the same list that originally appeared in Challenge #33.)

Hope this makes the endeavor a bit easier.

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Did anyone play with any of the various online nuclear blast calculators to check damage vs. maps? I've attached one I made for a 1.5 Mt blast against Richmond , California.
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Much obliged!

And yes, the Sawyer AFB in Michigan has been closed down since 1995. And I am definitely shocked that Sault Ste Marie was not an industrial/resource target.
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All of the rest of my maps (UK, USSR, Canada, North America) plus a few other unit maps are zipped in the file below
https://rapidshare.com/files/680650729/t2kmaps.zip

I think they all are (1.0/2.0/2.2) canon with the exception of the Czech map which corresponds to the DC Groups Czech Sourcebook.

Edit. Oh the Europe strike map is canon plus supposition.
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And yes, the Sawyer AFB in Michigan has been closed down since 1995. And I am definitely shocked that Sault Ste Marie was not an industrial/resource target.
Any target you think should have been nuked can be nuked in your campaign without breaking canon, you just declare it to have been under the size threshold for it to have been mentioned in canon*.

*Unless it expressly states in canon that a given location was NOT nuked.
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Any idea why Memphis was hit? Nothing jumps out as me as a strategic target there.
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Any idea why Memphis was hit? Nothing jumps out as me as a strategic target there.
Memphis is closer to the bottom left of TN. The hit is on Blytheville AFB, AR: 42nd Air Division Headquarters, 97th Strategic Bombing Wing (1 Mt).
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Any idea why Memphis was hit? Nothing jumps out as me as a strategic target there.
Graceland. An obvious strike to break American resolve: "We have destroyed your King's home!"

Or perhaps retaliation for the conventional strike that accidentally hit the Hermitage.

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Any idea why Memphis was hit? Nothing jumps out as me as a strategic target there.
Maybe the Rooskies were targetting Pigeon Forge and overshot.
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Any target you think should have been nuked can be nuked in your campaign without breaking canon, you just declare it to have been under the size threshold for it to have been mentioned in canon*.

*Unless it expressly states in canon that a given location was NOT nuked.
For instance it states specifically that the only nuclear strikes in PA were the ones near Philly in canon - thus that means that Harrisburg, Carlisle, York (the BAE plant that made the M109/M8/M88/Bradley, Caterpillar, Harley), Allentown (the Mack assembly plant at Macungie), McConnellsburg (JLG assembly plant that was probably converted to military production), etc.. are all unaffected - thus the Soviets left a lot of targets untouched - and thats just PA
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I can see two reasons to target Memphis.
1-Naval Air Station Millington was a major training base up until 1993 and then became a "support activity". It is less than 20 miles from downtown Memphis.
2-There are two major bridges over the Mississippi river in Memphis, if they are taken out it leaves a 125 mile gap with no bridges over the river.
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Did anyone play with any of the various online nuclear blast calculators to check damage vs. maps? I've attached one I made for a 1.5 Mt blast against Richmond , California.
I looked at the Richmond strike - and I am leaning more toward it being multiple nukes hitting the same target instead of a single 1.5MT blast - if you look at the Urban Guerrilla module you can see that there is a precedent - i.e. the strike against Cape Canaveral that was not just one large nuke but a series of small ones - there are other mentions as well of the larger strikes actually being multiple smaller strikes all hitting around the same time
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